While speaking on the final night of the GOP midterm convention, Vice President JD Vance said the country was “poorer” and “dirtier” before President Donald Trump was reelected for a second term.
“We were tired of being called racists for noticing that our country was becoming dirtier and poorer, and less safe and less prosperous,” Vance said on the final day of the two-day convention in Dallas, Texas.
His sentiment appeared to reflect the administration’s efforts to combat rising immigration rates in the U.S., a key campaign point during the 2024 election. Vance himself promoted unsubstantiated claims about Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio, in September 2024, spreading misinformation about the community abducting and eating pets.
The billionaires are the only group of “welfare queens” making the world a dirtier place.
Nobody has made America dirtier or poorer than MAGA has.
American workers have been getting poorer since the 1970s.
Every President, bOtH pArTiEs, American workers are poorer.
Poland now has better benefits for their people, with benefits that most Americans will never see (and they’re paid almost as much, with less taxation, on a smaller budget).
Family leave (41 weeks!). Vacation time (20 days!!!). Universal healthcare. Sick leave. “Occasional” leave, for the love of God. Sounds nice.
I guess their labor party can do so much more with so much less, for some reason.
https://www.dudkowiak.com/employment-law-in-poland/employee-benefits-in-poland
Ah perpetual victimhood
The Turd Reich
JD Vance: “Am I racist for wanting those filthy dirty Haitians to take a shower and go back to their country?”
Whether or not America was “dirtier and poorer” before Trump is immaterial here. Ascribing that to immigrants and people who look like immigrants is racist.
I’m sure they are tired of being called racist, but that doesn’t mean it’s not true.
It also wasn’t “less safe”, violent crime has been dropping for quite a while in most areas
No the FBI changed the definition of violent crime under Biden administration and have specifically ignored certain areas to bias the numbers.
I just saw you’re a weird e-Christian so I’m not going to bother replying to you :) good luck!
Even if we pretend that is true, the statement you are responding to is about statistics that predate Biden… by decades. Violent crime has been going down since the 90s. On average people are probably safer today than they were fifty or even thirty years ago.
Is there a place I can get the raw data? That’s what I want raw data
When I showed you evidence of the Iron River getting thousands of Mexicans killed under American-made guns, 30,000+ of them every year plus another 20,000+ if you count the depression, misery and poverty an environment like that causes, the cardiovascular and neurological diseases it causes on the poorest and most vulnerable, and how angry I was at that injustice, and the fact you have killed my family in the Middle East and Mexico, you kept gaslighting and then replied with this:
Why should anyone give a MAGA like you raw data? You are a piece of shit who denies reality.
Nice! I shall see for myself
When I showed you evidence of the Iron River getting thousands of Mexicans killed under American-made guns, 30,000+ of them every year plus another 20,000+ if you count the depression, misery and poverty an environment like that causes, the cardiovascular and neurological diseases it causes on the poorest and most vulnerable, and how angry I was at that injustice, and the fact you have killed my family in the Middle East and Mexico, you kept gaslighting and then replied with this:
Why should anyone give a MAGA like you raw data? You are a piece of shit who denies reality and ignores the deaths of minorities.
Also, not to engage with the point too much, but what do they think of Muslim immigrants? Ethnically speaking, people from that culture is particularly strict on cleanliness.
When they say dirty, they don’t actually mean hygiene. They mean melatonin.
I mean I know what they think of them, sigh, I don’t know who I pretend there’s even a kernel of a good faith argument here
The U.S. has become safer and safer every decade since the 90s. It didn’t matter who was president…always safer.
“Poorer and dirtier” says guy proud to claim that he was raised as white trash.
source: was also raised white trash, but did manage to develop class consciousness.
says guy proud to claim that he was raised as white trash
Guy who was actually not raised as “white trash”, and who has been lying and changing his tune constantly throughout his public life.
Exactly. A true conman at heart.
Elvis Jell-O molds are MY CULTURE, VANCE, NOT YOURS
congrats on starting your journey to recovery.
Translation: Republicans are tired of being called racist for being racist.
You realise that this is still better than republicans don’t mind being racist, which is still better than republicans being proud to be racist.
They love being racist, they just don’t claim it.
‘I only fuck white couches and sofas’
Welp
“If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that’s what I’m going to do.”
JD Vance on why it’s ok to lie about immigrants if it makes his base like him more. There is no comeuppance great enough for what they’re doing, and he knows it. A lot of the base may be too brainwashed, but he can see that he is ruining the country and he not only doesn’t care but is reveling in it.
I wonder if anyone today even remembers wondershowzen.
Kids on the beat, kids on the street, Beat Kids
I didn’t. I would seem like something I might have enjoyed were I still watching MTV at that late date. Post 95 I only watched MTV’s interstitial programming on the weekends exclusively. 120 Minutes and AMP. And when those ended so did me watching MTV . The gif itself was all over somethingawful.com, 4Chan etc though.
Kid’s show, kid’s show, change the channel forrrr… Kids
I do. I got my nephews to watch it so as to pass it down. Great show.
I started watching it last week even though I’m old enough to have seen it on TV.
“We are tired of being called racists for noticing America is getting dirty. Call us racist because we view people who are different than us as inherently lesser.”
I mean, not to get too deep into the weeds here but it seems like he’s literally saying dirtier because of the people in it, not like trash dirtier. It’s not even a misdirect on the phrase it’s a straight up dogwhitsle calling poor people dirty and equating that to non-white people. Your analysis is pretty spot on but more specifically “ Call us racist because we view people who are different than us as inherently dirtier. “ which is straight out of hitlers handbook. Almost like Trump has said handbook nearby, at the ready, like at his bedside table or something…
Totally agree, thinly veiled racism is this administration’s calling card.
That’s what I’m saying tho it’s not thin. It’s not barley even a dog whistle but we’ve pulled that window so far right that saying America is dirty (not trash, but literally the people) is just blatant racism. And you got some guy in here saying it’s paranoia. Ha
Here we go with the dog whistle bullshit.
do you think racists don’t use dog whistles? or that Republicans haven’t been using racist dog whistles since the southern strategy?
It’s democratic paranoia.
it would be great if you could answer the question. Are you saying Dog whistles don’t exist? are you claiming the Republican party hasn’t been using dog whistles since the southern strategy of Nixon’s third presidential campaign?
I didn’t even think conservatives could find their way out here. Fascinating. Do you think dogwhistles don’t exist? Cuz I see dudes around who have em tattooed on them… even tho thier tat doesn’t say heil Hitler, it says 1488, it’s literally what it means. It’s called a dog whistle because it’s meaningless unless you know what the true intentions are.
(Or quite literally, you blow a whistle only dogs can hear, meaning you can only “hear it” if you’re a certain kind of person that’s “in the know”) Trump does it all the time, too, I can prove it if needed. Usually I wouldn’t explain the concept but if you’re a right winger it’s gonna be totally necessary for this conversation to work out.
This is so funny because to the people he’s pandering to, his children are the dirt in this country.
It’s baffling to me that he is in an interracial marriage and is… Fine? With saying this kind of stuff? Idk maybe she is a monster too and it’s just cherry picking what is considered bad in their moral compass…
She must be a monster, she married JD Vance.
A few days ago Vance also got really riled up when discussing this kinda stuff. He said something about El Sayed not being the kinda person his hick granpappy would approve of and El Sayed shot back asking if the hick granpappy would approve of his wife. It really set him off, going on about how El Sayed shouldn’t bring Vance’s family into this. It was kinda funny to watch him squirm.
JD Vance is nothing. He’s not evil or stupid or whatever like the other MAGA people. He’ just a guy that nobody likes.
Wait, sounds like Vance brought his family into the convo first. The mental gymnastics these sad sacks of shit perform boggles me.
He does that a lot. He tries to sneak in some "veiled’ attack or remark and when people call him out for it he says they’re attacking him or his family. He’s a pathetic little man that thinks is somehow smarter than everyone else.
Here’s the article about the El Sayed bit if you wanna see it yourself. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/sep/01/abdul-el-sayed-jd-vance-evil
That’s a very common conservative trait: playing victim in situations you caused.
Thanks for the link, it was a fun read.
They roll over and play victim the moment someone pushes back on them
Monster for staying married after already having kids or monster for marrying? The Vance of the early-mid 2010s was very different before the Thiel money kicked in. He compared Trump to Hitler.
He was very easily bought though.
He’s a grifter. James is an ivy leaguer who makes hay about his single mother and “hillbilly roots” while wears eyeliner and pretends to be a tough guy.
It’s no surprise he talks out of both sides of his mouth.JD Vance is the Ted Cruz of the administrative branch.
It’s baffling to me that he is in an interracial marriage and is… Fine?
Usha Vance is a very pale skinned, high caste (Brahmin), wealthy migrant who was set up with JD Vance by Yale Law kingmaker Amy Chua.
This was a political marriage in the feudal sense. Vance is married in order to secure a social tie to Indian power brokers, as part of a generations-long effort by American elites to encircle Asia and control their domestic politics.
Same reason why Mitch McConnell married Tiawanese shipping magnet Elaine Chao.
She is not pale skinned by any Indian measure. Look at the actresses, they are a good bar to compare to.
That’s really interesting. Crazy this shit still happens. I guess I’m just not rich enough. And I’m gonna be pedantic, it’s magnate when you’re referring to someone who is a pillar of industry, not magnet 😉
I guess I’m just not rich enough.
This is as much a Yale thing as a Rich thing. Lots of weird freaky Trad types in the Ivy League.
That part checks out. There’s a lot of weird creepy over conservative trad types amongst the 1%.
Remember this is the guy who called the pedo a traitor for his role in Jan 6, then like a year later accepting the position as his VP.
His words are whatever he needs them to be.
Just because the couch is leather, does not mean he’s in an interracial relationship.
Indian people tend to be considered white in a lot of American spaces. May have to do with the amount of Indian immigrants that are higher caste/lighter skinned. They tend to be super racist towards black people and darker Asians
Don’t know why you’re downvoted like that, casteism/colorism is well-known within the Indian community. The Brahmins and White nationalists are like-minded in that sense, although the White nationalists still see themselves as superior.
They are religiofascist to a degree and demonize Muslims and enforce the “superiority” of Hinduism. There are definitely some mirrors to what has happened in their government versus ours.
I mean, some Indians have a fetish for Hitler, rooted in stupid legends about Aryanism. The pick-me-ism is insane.
I think the down votes are probably because I’ve never encountered a space where Indians are considered white, maybe in Silicon Valley? I hear more racist jokes about Indians than any other ethnic group in the Southeast US, though I hear more racist comments about black people and Hispanics.
Maybe it’s because I’m from a weird Californian region but I fell like Indians are generally pumped into the “dirty Asians” category regardless of caste or skin tone. But also I’ve seen really racist assholes defend the local Sikhs in particular so maybe my region is just weird.
I think exceptions and tokens play an important role in permitting the followers of fascists to deny the general principles of the people they follow, even in their own minds. For example, if Vance’s wife is brown, then Trump can’t hate all brown people, right? Then he must be rounding up those other brown people for some reason other than their being brown. The news keeps saying they’re rounding up criminals, many of whom happen to be brown, and the Left keeps screeching that Republicans hate all brown people, but his wife is brown… so the Left must be lying. The evidence to the contrary is right in front of your eyes.
And so on. Tokens are kept around by Republicans because they provide the thinnest possible veneer of plausible deniability to people who are afraid of non-whites but don’t want to think of themselves as racists. It’s a convenient off-ramp from a road that would otherwise tempt them to think difficult thoughts about themselves and the policies they approve of or at least willfully ignore.
My theory is that he’s slowly and deliberately trying to poison his own marriage so his wife will divorce him, then he’ll try to marry Erika Kirk.
The leather pants she wore during her Charlie Kirk grief tour reminded him of his couch and it hasn’t left his mind since.
Not to sound like a Vaush fanboy, but think he has a point when he says these people don’t actually believe what they’re saying. It’s just an excuse for cruelty.
Fascism has taken on a new form when it comes to race. I think people focus too heavily on the historical examples of fascism in an attempt to “reason” it as an ideology.
The racial structures of fascism are there to uphold white supremacy, patriarchy, and class. The contradiction is useful for the fascist. It is not a flaw or something that will cause conflict to other fascist. JD vance’s wife being Indian is seen as “useful”. Nothing more. That’s primarily how fascism operates. It’s why the definition of “Aryan” changed throughout place and time under Nazi rule. It’s the reason why who is considered “White” didn’t even include Germans when Benjamin Franklin used was using the term.
Maybe he hates his kids?
I’ve never heard him say he doesn’t
The origins of the pet eating accusation is some woman complaining her cat was missing and accusing their neighbour of eating it. The cat came back the very next day.
The cat came back It couldn’t stay away Meow kitty Meow so pretty Meow what a pity But the cat came back
Dunno if these are the exact lyrics but close enough…
This isn’t why they were called racists. They were called racists for claiming that Barack Obama wasn’t American, for trying to build a wall to keep out Central and South Americans, and for banning immigration from countries where most people are Muslim.
Let’s not forget “they’re eating the cats”
Do you think they’re arguing in good faith?
I wouldn’t trust Vance on faith matters, good or otherwise. This is a man who thinks he’s Catholic but disagrees with the Pope on some pretty basic stuff.
You should look into what’s happening in France.
