Rare Dorsey W
Well, my kind of humor.
Wasn’t he all in on AI just a couple months ago? Praising how awesome vibe coding is? Fuck that guy. Just another billionaire peddling lies for profit. You’ll just be creating content to train his AI.
As someone else said, don’t be surprised if this is a ruse to hoover up training data that isn’t AI generated. Guy is a tosser.
Sure pal, sure. That’s what all said, no AI, and look now.
Can’t wait whe they will offer him 1bilion or scare him to death to put AI on it.To get the perfect selfie please pull your tongue back in your mouth. Good, now close you mouth. Perfect, now lower your phone thirty degree. Great, now lower it thirty degrees more. Almost there! Now lower thirty more degrees and put it the fuck away in your pocket.
Congratulations, you now have the perfect selfie.
Love this
Jack Dorsey once again singing “but baby I’ve changed!”
hard pass from me.
Fine with this, want a tiktok alt and loops went nowhere
Forgot about loops.
It was kinda clunky
Guess it got an update and you can maybe self host now, idk no marketing budget = nothing federated is taking off, shorts platforms need ppl
Is it dead or not?
I haven’t been able to log in for a few weeks. I thought they killed the project.
Need to get a new testflight if on iphone it has an update, but yeah its still mediocre and kinda pointless to post with the compression and lack of users
Lemmy hates everything and everyone it seems.
Valid criticism isn’t baseless hate. And, is better to be skeptical than blindly complacent.
Jack Dorsey more than deserves the hate and I’m happy to discuss it with you.
We like our negativity here - it’s still okay to disagree and be positive though!
That being said, Dorsey was fine selling his last media company to the highest-bidding fascist. Chances are he‘ll do it again.
Personally, I won’t use any social media that isn’t billionaire-proof.
Why would anyone touch any garbage this guy produces?!
So what’s the angle? The Internet is getting flooded by AI slop. AI needs fresh REAL content to train with. That’s the angle. You are there to provide frsh amd original content to feed the AI.
Omfg this is so awful it’s likely either accidental truth or a damn good prediction
Thats a very good point and probably exactly the idea. Dorsey has always just been an actor that says one thing and thinks another.
Oh god, we have an AI incest flood ahead of us don’t we?
Maybe the angle is just that people hate Ai? Seriously, especially young people…
Is you a youngin? Cause no product under the control of a billionaire is free. If it’s free, you are the product. AI is hated and they’re trying to make a product using that hate as a basis for target audience
Nothing is free, If they can sell ads to people because they don’t like AI, they will. They’re rebooting it with about the same intent as it was originally designed to have.
Again with this idea of the ever-worsening ai models. It just isn’t happening in reality.
Not only it is actually happening, it’s actually well researched and mathematically proven.
The same reality where GPT5’s launch a couple months back was a massive failure with users and showed a lot of regression to less reliable output than GPT4? Or perhaps the reality where most corporations that have used AI found no benefit and have given up reported this year?
LLMs are good tools for some uses, but those uses are quite limited and niche. They are however a square peg being crammed into the round hole of ‘AGI’ by Altman etc while they put their hands out for another $10bil - or, more accurately while they make a trade swap deal with MS or Nvidia or any of the other AI orobouros trade partners that hype up the bubble for self-benefit.
It has been proven over and over that this is exactly what happens. I don’t know if it’s still the case, but ChatGPT was strictly limited to training data from before a certain date because the amount of AI content after that date had negative effects on the output.
This is very easy to see because an AI is simply regurgitating algorithms created based on its training data. Any biases or flaws in that data become ingrained into the AI, causing it to output more flawed data, which is then used to train more AI, which further exacerbates the issues as they become even more ingrained in those AI who then output even more flawed data, and so on until the outputs are bad enough that nobody wants to use it.
Did you ever hear that story about the researchers who had 2 LLMs talk to each other and they eventually began speaking in a language that nobody else could understand? What really happened was that their conversation started to turn more and more into gibberish until they were just passing random letters and numbers back and forth. That’s exactly what happens when you train AI on the output of AI. The “AI created their own language” thing was just marketing.
JPEG artifacts but language
You may want to use AI’s some time for the sake of science. They are many times worse than a year ago.
People really latched onto the idea, which was shared with the media by people actively working on how to solve the problem
Honestly, I don’t really trust any cryptobro, I see them on similar level as AI-bros
don’t care dorsey is the problem
Loops: “Am I a joke to you?”
Everyone else: “Who said that?”
Enforcing that ban is going to be difficult.
They’re gonna use AI to detect the use of AI.
Not if I use AI to hide my use of AI first!
They are going to implement an AI detector detector detector.
It’s detectors all the way down.
But of course, as a tortoise, you would know that.
Did I seduce you a lot with my hard, polished shell? You can speak freely, nobody will ever know!
No, it was your intense, Gowron-like stare that truly drilled into my heart.
Glory to seduction! Glory to the empire!
Trace busta busta?
This one
But then they’ll implement an AI detector detector deflector.
Fun fact, this loop is kinda how one of the generative ML algorithms works. This algorithm is called Generative Adversarial Networks or GAN.
You have a so-called Generator neural network G that generates something (usually images) from random noise and a Discriminator neural network D that can take images (or whatever you’re generating) as input and outputs whether this is real or fake (not actually in a binary way, but as a continuous value). D is trained on images from G, which should be classified as fake, and real images from a dataset that should be classified as real. G is trained to generate images from random noise vectors that fool D into thinking they’re real. D is, like most neural networks, essentially just a mathematical function so you can just compute how to adjust the generated image to make it appear more real using derivatives.
In the perfect case these 2 networks battle until they reach peak performance. In practice you usually need to do some extra shit to prevent the whole situation from crashing and burning. What often happens, for instance, is that D becomes so good that it doesn’t provide any useful feedback anymore. It sees the generated images as 100% fake, meaning there’s no longer an obvious way to alter the generated image to make it seem more real.
Sorry for the infodump :3
Spoken like a true AI.
Well the AI-based AI detector isn’t actively making creative people’s work disappear into a sea of gen-AI “art” at least.
There’s good and bad use cases for AI, I consider this a better use case than generating art. Now the question is whether or not it’s feasible to detect AI this way.
Indeed.
I have an Immich instance running on my home server that backs up my and my wife’s photos. It’s like an open source Google Photos.
One of its features is an local AI model that recognises faces and tags names on them, as well as doing stuff like recognising when a picture is of a landscape, food, etc.
Likewise, Firefox has a really good offline translation feature that runs locally and is open source.
AI doesn’t have to be bad. Big tech and venture capital is just choosing to make it so.
Ouroboros
Seems that way:
Just the threat of being able to summarily remove AI content and hand out account discipline will cut down drastically on AI and practically eliminate the really low effort ‘slop’, it’s not perfect but it’s damn useful.
It’s also going to make it really easy to take down the content you don’t like, just accuse it of being AI and watch the witch hunting roll in. I’ve seen plenty of examples of traditional artists getting accused of using AI in other forums, I don’t imagine this will be any different.
I got accused of being an AI for writing a comment reply to someone which was merely informative, empathic and polite!
People already mass report to abuse existing AI moderation tools. It’s already starting to be accounted for and I can’t imagine it so much as slowing down implementing an anti AI rule if I’m being honest.
The ban doesn’t need a 100% perfect AI screening protocol to be a success.
Just the fact that AI is banned might appeal to a wide demographic. If the ban is actually enforced, even in just 25% of the most blatant cases, it might be just the push a new platform needs to take off.
Just because something might be hard means we should give up before even trying?
Of course not, but I don’t think anybody suggested that.
Only if we let it be. There’s no technical reason why the origin of a video couldn’t have a signature generated by the capture device, or legally requiring AI models to do the same for any content they generate. Anything without an origin sticker is assumed to be garbage by default. Obviously there would need to be some way to make captures either anonymous or not at the user’s choice, and nation states can evade these things with sufficient effort like they always do, but we could cut a lot of slop out by doing some simple stuff like that.
“Legally” doesn’t mean shit if it’s not enforceable. Besides, removing watermarks is trivial.
There is no technically rigorous way to filter AI content, unfortunately.
while a phone signing a video to show that it was captured with the camera is possible, it will be easy too to fake the signature. all it would take would be a hacked device to steal the private key. and even if apple/google/samsung have perfectly secure systems to sign the origin of the video, there would be ton of cheaper phones that would likely won’t.
Jack Dorsey
Go back to sleep, dude has jumped on every consumer trend ever since he left Twitter. AI content is not even a core issue of current social media platforms, despite its overwhelming popularity and loads of posts.
