• TigerAce@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    32 minutes ago

    What is the benifit of AI in devices like fridges, washing machines and dish washers? We’ve had these devices for years now, even a 40 year old machine works flawlessly, just uses a bit excessive power. A fridge needs to cool, a washing machine needs to clean. They don’t need to do anything else, and they did this perfectly when we didn’t have AI.

    So to my understanding, AI implemented into these machines is just a way to make it more expensive to buy, adds the option for a subscription for constant income acting as a paywall, gives the opportunity to hoard loads of data from the customers and makes it easy to brick the device just after warranty so people buy more of your devices.

    TL:DR:

    • Manufacturer benefits: 4
    • Consumer benefits: -4
  • rose56@lemmy.zip
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    1 hour ago

    Let’s add internet to every device that exists, and have the devices depend on internet connection.

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    4 hours ago

    I’ve spent 20 days waiting for a part from China to (hopefully) repair my 18 year old very basic fridge because I refuse to get some stupid fucking touchscreen internet connected advertising box.

    I fucking hate the modern world.

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      24 minutes ago

      even fridges within the last 10-15 years are crappy. only the ones from early 2000s, or pre-2000 last a long time.

    • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
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      3 hours ago

      its pretty easy to get a fridge still without a touch screen. The 1st two pages on costco here (I didn’t go further) don’t have one.

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    3 hours ago

    is this that 2000-3000k smart samsung fridge? most normal fridges have a lifespan of around 5years now, due to planned oblescence. earlier this week i thought our fridge died, but the control switch for fridgeaire just got turned to freezing, which has never worked(and is a known defect).

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    5 hours ago

    I have smart lights that can be controlled over the internet.
    If the internet connection goes down, I can also control them locally.
    If the local network fails, I have physical light switches.

    All smart devices should fail into a safe and functional mode when the smart features inevitably stop working. It seems Samsung doesn’t subscribe to that philosophy.

    • theparadox@lemmy.world
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      1 hour ago

      All smart devices should fail into a safe and functional mode when the smart features inevitably stop working.

      I’m horrified that you could possibly advocate for allowing the consumer to have any real control of their own devices. Have you considered the security implications of not requiring devices to be 100% dependent on the manufacturer’s server? Users might be able to use the device without first installing the company’s app! The user might be able to use the device without the company knowing about it and selling that data for additional profit or using it to train it’s AI.

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      3 hours ago

      Somehow, a billionaire will swear up and down that what you’re saying is beyond cost efficient as he donates his parent’s legacy and graves to his AI idol statues.

  • RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world
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    8 hours ago

    Nothing. Is made. Correctly. Anymore. I went to school for industrial design, and I can comfortably say design and how to communicate proper use are fucking dead. Some thing or website or service is made wrong every fucking time I turn around. It is relentless and unreal.

    • Cherry@piefed.social
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      2 hours ago

      Yup. I was always grappling with form/ function and balance that benefit the user. Seems it’s now ennshittification and subscription are the drivers.

      I can see the brief now.

      1. Must have at least one subscription feature
      2. Should make the user mad
      3. Every aspect should have control but is… Extra bonus if does not ever en fulfil its purpose.
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    9 hours ago

    This is dumb, but what’s even dumber is making a device that can even fail in that way to start with. I’d have expected the core refrigerator function to be isolated in some way from the rest of the device.

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      7 hours ago

      Perhaps being able to turn the fridge off remotely was always part of the plan? We’re in the age of enshittification, where companies don’t see enforcing a mandatory subscription onto their pre-existing customers as problematic. I honestly wouldn’t put it past a modern company to keep such an ace up their sleeves just in case.