• magnetosphere@fedia.io
    367·
    3 months ago

    He strikes me as the kind of person who uses words like “bourgeoisie” to sound smart and thoughtful… but uses them while regurgitating talking points from fox “news”.

    • Beaver@lemmy.caOPEnglish
      132·
      3 months ago

      They’re not much different from the republicans they so detest. Hell I mean even Cuba is apathetic towards transgender people, Nutomic should be like them.

    • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
      146·
      3 months ago

      Marxism-Leninism is fundamentally a right-wing ideology. It’s a right-wing ideology that is very much at odds with the dominant right-wing ideology in the West, but if you blur your eyes and take a step back, you’ll see the same thinking at play. Once you realize this, the whole situation starts to make a lot more sense.

    • barsquid@lemmy.world
      115·
      3 months ago

      The very left lefties who explain to us that the best tactics to achieve leftism are coincidentally doing exactly what the rightmost political group wants.

      • magnetosphere@fedia.io
        63·
        3 months ago

        I can understand being frustrated with democracy. It has many strengths, but efficiency isn’t one of them.

        When you see an injustice, you want it fixed NOW. Authoritarianism looks kinda good then, but ultimately it causes more problems than it solves.

        “Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.”

    • XNX@slrpnk.net
      75·
      3 months ago

      Tankies like him basically regurgitate fox news talking points other than anything relating to china lol. Like literally itd be difficult to tell them apart if china wasnt mentioned

    • Beaver@lemmy.caOPEnglish
      61·
      3 months ago

      Its nice having terrible social skills sometimes to the point where I make people drop the mask quicker.

      • smoothbrain coldtakes@lemmy.ca
        92·
        3 months ago

        It also helps that nutomic and Dessalines are both certifiable.

        It’s kind of a shame. I really like the platform and the concepts inherent to federated social media, but it really sucks that the maintainers of the codebase are hostile to any ideology but their own.

        • Beaver@lemmy.caOPEnglish
          41·
          3 months ago

          I wanted to support them before but now I’m hoping someone forks their codebase.

          • XNX@slrpnk.net
            6·
            3 months ago

            Piefed is a beauty. Made to be easily to contribute to, great morals and focus on tools for safety, ability to subscribe to posts for notifications sorts like the forum days, compatible with lemmy and discourse forum federation iirc and the main developer seems really chill and like he cares about making a good and healthy platform

              • Rikudou_Sage@lemmings.world
                5·
                3 months ago

                There are several bad architectural decisions and when your architecture is wrong, the quality of the code itself doesn’t really matter (to be more specific, I was talking about architecture in my previous comment, not the code itself, I don’t know Rust so I can’t really comment on that).

                To fix the architecture, major parts would have to be rewritten, almost making it a different codebase, because pretty much no part would be left unturned.

  • Birbatron@lemmy.mlEnglish
    203·
    3 months ago

    As someone who just joined and picked .ml because it seemed generally leftist

    What the fuck?

    • barsquid@lemmy.world
      295·
      3 months ago

      It is generally leftist. Unfortunately you are probably imagining leftist economics but they want “leftist” authoritarianism. They despise capitalism. They love state capitalism. They will excuse any atrocities and human rights violations that occur as long as the country is extremely authoritarian and pretending to be economically left.

      They are historical revisionists as well. Admins are extremely fragile. They will ban you from every community for writing historically accurate facts. If you find this screenshot appalling you should preemptively switch to a different instance before they catch you doing wrongthink and ban you.

      Source: I had a lemmy.ml account for the same reasons as you.

        • Feathercrown@lemmy.worldEnglish
          171·
          3 months ago

          Only leftists are allowed to hate other leftists. Them’s the law 'round these parts, partner.

          • CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.world
            217·
            3 months ago

            Oh golly gee willikers, I looked it up & you are 1000% correct. 🫠

            I bend over, firmly grab my ankles, and say ORANGE MAN SO VERY BAD, in accordance with the invisible ink on the US Constitution. Which only the most awesome liberal elites know about, the rest or us just meander around in the dark, waiting for them to scream at us & enlighten us on the one true way to political salvation. 🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌

        • Katrisia@lemm.ee
          71·
          3 months ago

          Yes. It worries me that you haven’t found them. Either you have but you thought they were stupid anyway because of them being leftists, or you haven’t because you do not believe in any way in equality, solidarity, search for knowledge, and many other values the left stands for. This I find difficult to believe.

        • vga@sopuli.xyz
          13·
          3 months ago

          Well yes. There’s a smart kind of leftism too. The kind they had in the 70s and 80s. But it’s not very mainstream right now.

    • Wxnzxn@lemmy.ml
      51·
      3 months ago

      Yeah, I am too attached to my account because it’s several years old and was made when there were next to no instances running. But I can only shake my head at the amount of Marxist-Leninist nonsense that is at times pushed there, that unironically elevates what was a development of “Marxism” out of the material conditions of the Eastern Bloc as an imperialist sphere bent on market expansion and accumulation of national capital, into a religion-like orthodoxy.

      No, ideology that is nominally Marxist, and having an educated caste of decision-makers highly trained in your interpretation of it at the top won’t prevent capitalist dynamics and bring about communism, only the material base and changing it will, and your ideology will follow what your material base demands. And that had been expansion of national capital for the Eastern sphere since the revolution failed to link up with any industrialised nations in the 1920s. The elevation of Marxism into a basically teleological ideology, claiming that with subservience to the interests of national capital, there will be communism at the end (a promise broken over and over again), is completely understandable by looking at the Soviet and Chinese spheres of influence from a Marxist perspective.

      And even the structures put into place by Lenin were explicitly designed as for his own time and the conditions within the Russian Empire, not as an infallible orthodoxy, and things like Democratic Centralism explicitly contained open and free discussion before unity of action, which was just completely pushed away. Urgh, it’s sad to me, because I think a new, invigorated and organised communist movement is needed more than ever, but by redirecting it to the national interest of states like China (and even Russia, which isn’t even nominally communist, and just opposes western imperialism to impose its own imperialism - like choosing Germany over France in WWI, the exact shit Lenin fought against) instead of the international proletariat, just weakens it overall.

      • Socsa@sh.itjust.works
        31·
        3 months ago

        I mean there literally is one. European style social democracy and democratic socialism has made way more progress towards socialist ideals than anything inherited from the Leninist tradition. It’s just that the revolutionary fan service isn’t as good so the Orthodox MLs don’t like it very much.

        • jerkface@lemmy.caEnglish
          11·
          3 months ago

          Technology and social advances have increased the wealth and income disparity that the working class will tolerate without destroying the system.

    • vga@sopuli.xyz
      311·
      3 months ago

      Leftism doesn’t require trans activism. It happens there mostly due to tribalism, not because the ideology somehow makes it necessary.

        • vga@sopuli.xyz
          14·
          3 months ago

          I don’t exactly see why that’s a requirement. You mean because trans people usually need costly medical treatments?

          • Beaver@lemmy.caOPEnglish
            4·
            3 months ago

            Weaken work performance because of poor mental health will be much more costly in the long run for society.

            Healthcare is not a zero sum game and we can tax the rich much more to cover it all.

            • vga@sopuli.xyz
              1·
              3 months ago

              Oh right, I made the mistake of conflating “healthcare as a human right” with “public sector healthcare” because of the context. You and DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social are right of course.

  • Etterra@lemmy.world
    15·
    3 months ago

    Because why would the bourgeoisie want the masses fighting each other? Though he’s wrong anyway because the elite didn’t promote anything that doesn’t benefit them financially. While that includes turning the poor against each other, it also includes selling anything in any form to anyone regardless of want moral, ethical, or practical factors. If they can get you to pay them money for something with a rainbow on it, congrats, they’re pro-lgbtq. Because they’ve got another subsidiary that will sell the hate-fueled psychopaths that want to kill you their Bibles and.

  • ✺roguetrick✺@lemmy.world
    184·
    3 months ago

    Classical Marxist/Lenninism is specifically not intersectional. They’ll use race as a lever against capitalism but deny race as a social problem they must specifically intervene on. But it’s also stupid to adopt. There’s a reason TERFs are often fascist adjacent.

    • SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml
      7·
      3 months ago

      There are plenty of early leninists who were deeply intersectional. Alexandra Kollontai jumps to mind immediately.

      But yeah, there’s definitely a vulgar strain here that nutomic is clinging to.

    • Katrisia@lemm.ee
      41·
      3 months ago

      I think it’s like saying that Marxism isn’t… let’s say, Nietzschean. Those are two ways of looking into problems. In some points, they’ll coincide; in others, they won’t. I’m bad at analogies. Anyway, if you’re a Nietzschean (in this case, if you believe intersectionality is the proper way of looking at social phenomena), of course Marxism (probably in all its different branches) will look incomplete and like they’re building from the wrong premises to you. But if you were Marxist, you’d think the same of Nietzschean philosophy (or intersectionality).

      I’m sure both have excellent reasons to believe in a framework or another, but we should not forget they are just that, not truth™. I say this not to fall into an absolute relativism but to prevent any side from falling into a conviction of moral superiority. We cannot be so sure about it.

      • Cyborganism@lemmy.ca
        6·
        3 months ago

        No I know about that.

        But what the fuck do trans have to do with the bourgeoisie???

        If anything most of the ones I know are anticapitalist.

        • Chamomile 🐑@furry.engineer
          71·
          3 months ago

          @cyborganism @GammaGames There’s a particular category of “leftist” who, to put it gently, have a greatly simplified view of the world in which “the only war is class war.” They regard social issues such as anti-racism, feminism, queer liberation as distractions from the “true” cause of bringing about a new economic system - unimportant at best, active interference invented by the ruling class at worst.

          Basically, they’re narrow-minded bigots.

          • The Cuuuuube@beehaw.orgEnglish
            6·
            3 months ago

            Which is so fucking dumb because they’re actively resisting the class awakening that we all need to have. That these divisions and culture wars we have are a distraction from the true communal love we could all experience and push to topple the hierarchical system. These fucking regressive morons are standing in the way of their own revolution

          • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            51·
            3 months ago

            I’d argue that they aren’t entirely wrong, just coming to the entirely wrong conclusion.

            It absolutely benefits the 1% to have people fighting about stuff that keeps them out if the crosshairs, but the solution isn’t to be an asshole and stamp out any attempts at progress in culture and acceptance. The solution is to accept people and progress cultural stuff faster to unite people better.

            If you’re going to be militant about the class war, don’t you want as many allies as possible? Within reason of course, don’t want bigoted assholes.

            • The Quuuuuill@slrpnk.netEnglish
              92·
              3 months ago

              That’s the thing. Dessalines and Nutomic are the bigoted assholes the rest of us should be telling to fuck right off because they’re getting in the way of our class awakening. They think they’re adovocating for true liberation when their way of going about it slows things down. They are tools of capital holders when they pull shit like this

            • Chamomile 🐑@furry.engineer
              2·
              3 months ago

              @wizardbeard Oh yeah, totally - it’s not like the 1% doesn’t use these things to its advantage. Don’t take my comment as making the mistake of ignoring that. It’s just myopic at best to act like other forms of oppression can be ignored as long as we ensure economic liberation. And a lot of the people spouting that opinion… well, there’s a reason they think bigotry isn’t a problem - they suck.

            • XNX@slrpnk.net
              0·
              3 months ago

              Not sure how that relates? Thats just Europeans being racist which is extremely common and irritating

              • pearable@lemmy.ml
                2·
                3 months ago

                I think all bigotry can be used as a wedge to divide working people from their own interests. I wouldn’t be surprised if Romani bigotry was used to control Europeans in the past. However, I think immigration is the most important wedge in the European context

  • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
    173·
    3 months ago

    @nutomic@lemmy.ml can you comment on this statement, or at least its veracity? Kind of fucking alarming even if it was a private correspondence. Sure as hell gonna make it (more) impossible for me to convince my trans siblings to join Lemmy if shit like this is allowed to fly. And I’m sure a lot of us are in similar boats.

    • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
      72·
      3 months ago

      It’d probably help if you told them about blahaj instead of trying to pick a beef with a single code monkey you don’t have to interact with.

      • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
        8·
        3 months ago

        I very much do not want beef with @nutomic@lemmy.ml. I want clarity.

        I decided to actually tag him because maybe seeing a voice that’s “new to him” would get him to respond since he hasn’t responded yet anywhere (as of writing) and I didn’t see anyone else having tagged him.

        I commented in public because I want to be transparent about what I say and what he says in the low chance he responds, so that there’s no mucking about with screenshots and “leaking private messages”.

        I want him to understand that this is a serious issue that could jeopardize his life’s work and not just someone trying to get “dunk points” on him.

        It’d probably help if you told them about blahaj

        Already have, lol. So the instance is trans-inclusive, but how can I convince them that the software is trans-inclusive and isn’t systemically biased against them? They’re not technical people; I’ve tried explaining the difference between federated and corporate social media.

  • theneverfox@pawb.socialEnglish
    111·
    3 months ago

    Well, those were certainly words.

    As a reminder, luckily code does not mean understanding… It’s just the right words in the right order. The code itself is blameless, it’s not great code or anything (and on request, I can be extremely precise in my criticisms), but it’s good enough to be used for good things

    • Chozo@fedia.io
      2·
      3 months ago

      What is that?

      EDIT: I posted before Googling it, because I assumed it would just give me Naruto results. Turns out it took me to this browser extension. Thanks for sharing!

      Edit again: Now I’m extra dumb because that’s not even from Naruto.

        • Eldritch@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          3 months ago

          Shinigami are a general Japanese concept. The soul reaper’s from bleach were also referred to as shinigami. Basically kami/spirit of death. I did watch death note aeons ago. And the character attached to the death note was also a shinigami. Though I don’t remember anything special in reference to it’s eyes? Meh I probably just missed it or forgot. Its been almost 20 years XD

          • Beaver@lemmy.caOPEnglish
            1·
            3 months ago

            The eyes tell you how many days someone has left in Death Note.

            So if someone shows up as red they’re more likely to be an antivaxxer as they’re more likely to be ignoring science, their days are going to be fewer as a result of their ignorance.