I understand the idea of shielding people from content that would be upsetting, but my own experience is, that I feel a little anxious as soon as I read Trigger Warning […].

How is your experience with it? Are you happy with it, or do you thing there are better ways to address dark topics?

  • LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world
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    I’m trying to imagine under what circumstances anyone would leave after a trigger warning. If they’re so sensitive to all the bullshit we all see on the internet every day, why would they be there in the first place?

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    I like it as it helps with keeping the vibe right. It would detract from certain specific cases that rely on the element of surprise to give you the full effect. If there was a list of trigger warnings for doki doki literature club, for example, it wouldn’t hit you right

    I dont have any super PTSD/trauma/psychological scar triggers or anything though so my opinion doesnt hold much weight here, I’m not who they’re for.

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    I grew up in the 90’s. The wild West of the Internet. I’ve accidentally seen things so beyond fucked up. I had a friend back then that I’ve lost contact with and she used to email me fucked up images that just opening the email, there it was. But she’d also send high quality jokes or nudes of herself so it was kinda all or nothing. I think at that time my email was @rammstein.com lol. But were talking fatal crash pictures, one was a woman fucking a cactus, stuff seared into my memory that I wish I could get rid of. So yeah, if you think trigger warnings are excessive, you are probably too young to have experienced the 90’s and early 00’s. Even going to picture sites like imgur today, back then nothing was categorized so you’d get everything. Nsfw sites back then included EVERYTHING nsfw, from people smoking pot to stills of decapitations.

    The traumatizing shit I saw on the Internet in those days, I’d compare to my experience in Iraq. That’s not to say that visual imagery is as bad as IRL, with the sights, sounds… And smells, but when you’re not expecting that sort of thing, it can be a big deal. Honestly those things probably jaded me to a point where I could more adequately handle war, but in ANY other scenario I’d say those days of no rules Internet were very harmful to a lot of people.

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      This is a very valuable take and much needed perspective here. I appreciate you sharing it!

      Also can’t help but lol at your experience with the wild girl who definitely used Skinner Box conditioning to make sure you always opened her emails! 😂

      I miss a lot of the spirit of the hijinks and lulz internet, but I definitely don’t miss all the disgusting shock content that came with deeper web exploration. I visited the famous /b/ exactly once and decided my soul didn’t need that shit.

      There’s a lot of gore stuff that I think was photoshopped, but also damn someone spent time making that?! I didn’t care to analyze it, I just wished there was such a thing as brain bleach.

      There was also sites that would punish hotlinking by replacing images with the infamous “goatse” (no.), which was really great when trying to send my girlfriend a funny picture I found and she got to it too late. LOL that was fun to explain why she was seeing what she was seeing.

      People warned me of misnamed videos on Kazaa and stuff turning out to be abuse material or execution footage but thankfully I mostly avoided that.

      I remember clicking a phony download link and getting eyeball-blasted with CSAM ads seared into my brain once. (Actually I think I sent the link to the FBI on this one.)

      Yeah, I miss the expressive freedom of “at your own risk” Internet, simply because you weren’t as much constantly being tailed by marketing bots and algorithms, but I don’t miss the mental trauma that came with clicking the wrong link.

      You’re right though, in a weird way a bit of prior desensitizing can almost help us keep it together if we find ourselves in a really, really bad place. But I wish for a world where nobody has to do that…

      This is all also why, even though I find the Dark Web super intriguing…I don’t need that shit. Lol

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        Yeah I’ve occasionally been tempted to check out the dark web for things like drugs from stuff like silk road, like mushrooms and DMT type stuff, nothing crazy. But thats opening a door to a world much more dangerous than mushrooms and shit. And I know myself, I’m naturally curious, and I know for certain I’d find things I’d wish I hadn’t. Beyond that, I’m not computer savvy enough to to get there without being looked into by the gov more than I’d like, or obliterating my computer, or losing bank accounts or something. It’s just a door I’ll keep closed.

        Yeah she was… An interesting character.

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    I appreciate them. You are what you eat. That goes for what you put in your eyes and ears as much as your mouth

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    Depends. I’m fine with most stuff, but I certainly want warnings if a video is titled “revolving door fail” but the content warning is “NSFL” (dude got his fingers caught and visibly cut off)

    Not having a NSFL tag would be a major disservice to the viewer.

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    eh, shit i’ve read and seen on a screen, while it may have bothered me at the time, isn’t actual trauma, which does not fucking ask permission.

    And yeah, there’s media that triggers that-but it’s media. I close it. I leave. I can. it’s not actually happening to me, right now.

    I think it’s a decent notion, to annotate. It’s for sure people trying to be good for one another, and that’s laudable.

    But. As I said, the worst of the world does not ask permission, and I think enforcement of content tags or what have you would likely lead directly to even more oppression and censorship in the storm of that which we are currently in.

    I will say ao3’s pretty on point about it, from what i’ve seen-it’s voluntary, and it’s actually voluntary. How you keep that across the ages is anyone’s guess

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    Just to head this off at the pass, because someone is bound to bring up exposure therapy: hi, hello, I am someone who has been through exposure therapy (technically Exposure/Response Prevention, or ERP). Yes, it is broadly speaking true that avoiding triggers increases anxiety in the long run. However, one thing that was stressed to me over and over in ERP is that exposures have to be VOLUNTARY to be beneficial. Meaning, just hucking a tarantula at someone with arachnophobia is going to do far more harm than good. Likewise showing them a bunch of pictures of spiders with no warning. However, putting a content warning puts the decision to engage back into the hands of the person with the phobia (or trauma, eating disorder, etc), which effectively turns it into a voluntary exposure should they choose to engage.

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      You’re right on point, though I gotta say your example of “hucking a tarantula at someone with arachnophobia” had me laughing harder than I have in a long time. Don’t mind me though, I’m just really fucked up In the head from all the times I’ve seen horrible shit unexpectedly. I’m what happens when you don’t have some kind of guidelines.

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    I think it’s content dependent. I lean towards not having them, but I can think of a couple episodes of the magicians where I would have appreciated the warning instead of the after the fact help line screen. It’s also true that adding a warning lessens the impact of the scene being warned about which I think is also counterproductive.

    I think we need more granular ratings than we currently have. Kickass and I Spit on Your Grave having the same R rating is essentially meaningless.

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    All content is upsetting to someone.

    Many commenters would self-censor, at best, toward a “common man” kind of shock tolerance. This doesn’t help those people who need trigger warnings for way more.

    I can’t see how to resolve that vast gulf.

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    It depends on the implementation. Some good implementations are: Tags on AO3, Content Warnings at the beginning Movies/TV, using tags on the fediverse There is one implementation that really bothers me and it’s the Content Warning on the fediverse, the fact that it hides the whole post by default means that most of the time I end up expanding the content and seeing it anyways. I would prefer if the fediverse would just move to spoiler tags where you can hide only the content that the warning is for:

    like this

    tada!

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    I absolutely appreciate them. They give me the chance to decide for myself whether to engage with a topic, depending on where I’m at. Suicide is often hard for me to deal with, due to my own family circumstances, so sometimes I want to get in and help people who are struggling, but other times, I just need to avoid the discussion for my own wellbeing. Content warnings give me the opportunity to make that choice

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    Depends on what are they warning me about. If it is about gore of something similar I can appreciate it, if it about foul language they can shove that warning up their asses.