How is this not bigger news?

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    Can’t seem to find the ‘reply’ button on any comments in any threads anymore, they musta changed something… so I gotta create a top level comment now to reply.

    “So, just like the 9/11 hijacking changes everything about how people respond to a hijacking event, this changes everything about answering your door. You see someone dressed as a cop at your door, you don’t answer the door. You call 911, then have then identify the name and badge number of the cop at your door and you don’t answer the door until 911 acknowledges its a real cop at the door.

    IDK about you but after you don’t answer the door, I wouldn’t be calling 911, I’d be playing possum with a fucking loaded gun waiting to go off if the front door opens or waiting for them to leave. The guy didn’t say he had a warrant, and if the police have a warrant just one cop isn’t going to be there, it’ll be a Pride of LEOs.

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    It is wild right-wingers are trying to paint the killer as left wing. Trump cultist prove they can’t comprehend anything. RIP to both of the victims.

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    “Evangelical Terrorist targets minnisota politicians for assassination, 2 dead, 2 wounded”

    They should revoke the church’s tax exemption for radicalizing this guy

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    Democratic leaders should have bodyguard details that they have personally chosen outside of the Federal framework. The violence will keep escalating, both stochaostic and direct.

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      In this political environment yes… but generally no public figure (including the president) should need a security detail

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    I’d bet anything the police and media response to this is and will be orders of magnitude less than when that healthcare guy got clapped.

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      Pretty sure they were throwing “assassinated” in the headlines very early on there where this is just a “shooting” even though Tim Walz has already declared it a politically motivated assassination.

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      My very first thought was about Luigi and thinking if this guy is found alive he likely won’t have any serious response. It seems they have a suspect but the dude was clearly wearing a mask so idk how they determined that

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    You know what’s fucked up is that I don’t even have to look. I can tell you right now that the victims in this crime are part of the Democratic party. You know how I know? Because the FBI director and the president are talking about prosecuting to the fullest extent of the law and how violence in America will never be acceptable.

    But if it was the other way around and a Democrat went nuts and killed a Republican senator Donald Trump would be on truth social calling for that person to be hung or stretched or quartered or whatever it is they did to people in the middle ages.

    

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      But if it was the other way around … Donald Trump would be on truth social calling for that person to be hung…

      Not just that, but he would be demonizing the whole Democrat party, saying how their dangerous rhetoric caused this and the party needs to be outlawed and its leaders arrested.

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          My assumption is that if Luigi is getting charged at the federal level for killing one random, rich white guy, this person who has killed two politicians and has a hit list for others, would be charged at the federal level for terrorism. At least I’d expect that in a normal, functional society, which we’re not.

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        Is he a cop then? The cop car part is confusing otherwise. Uniform etc. not so much.

        Edit: I see elsewhere that the car was disguised too

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          “Disguised” we’ve willingly made police cars so obscure they don’t stand out anymore. Here in Maine every car could be a cop car.

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            There’s one in my town that is black. With black writing on it that says police. The only way to see the text is to see the difference in sheen between the paint and the writing.

            it should be very illegal

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              Yeah, every time they get a new upgrade over here it’s even harder to detect. But it’s part of the uniform. Should stand out and be hard to replicate.

              Start calling 911 when you get pulled over to confirm it’s a real officer and really just make it a headache for him and they’ll go back to normal.

              “Hi I’m just calling to verify this unmarked pulling me over is a real officer” they will get the picture after a couple of thousand of those

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              Yeah, cops call this ghost marking. They do it to skirt around the laws regarding marked vs unmarked vehicles. Unmarked vehicles have stricter requirements, so cops ghost mark their vehicles and say “look, they’re technically not unmarked, so they don’t have to follow all of those stricter rules.”

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                Then they’ll check your window tint with their expert window tint detector flashlight.

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            In Minnesota?

            Cop cars are very distinct. Big white and black SUVs with guard rails and big ass lights. They look like they’re going to run you over fun. I call em intimidation transports.

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              We have three different colors of Ford escapes with very discreet light bars. They look like every other fucking Ford escape on the road or whatever those stupid SUVs are. So every Karen looks like a cop and every cop looks like a Karen.

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                Yeah I’ve been looking at them since @LilBOkChoy said something. They must be newer. They are quite literally impossible to see.

                Seems appropriate for a police state though. China must be jelly of them

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                  It’s just funny watching the citizens make their cars more like cop cars too. I shit my pants a little bit speeding and then notice it’s not a cop riding my ass it’s just granny trying to race to an early grave

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              This isn’t completely accurate. I live in South Saint Paul and some of our police have Ford Explorers with no visible light bars and dark blue lettering on black paint.

              I’ve seen state patrol make stops on 494 between the Wakota bridge and 35E in dark blue unmarked chargers.

              They’re relatively new I think but that same trend of low-profile police cars has started here now too.

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              Yeah spend all this money on tanks and shit, then they’re gonna drive around in a Hyundai?

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          Tell me you don’t know what qualified immunity is without telling me you don’t know that qualified immunity is.

          Edit: Seems like a lot of people don’t know what qualified immunity is.

          Qualified immunity means a cop can’t be personally liable in civil litigation for legal actions taken while doing their job.

          It has nothing to do criminal prosecution when they break the law. It basically just means you have to sue the police department, not the cop.

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              I’m not sure what that has to do with being protected from a civil lawsuit.

          • ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one
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            Tell me you didn’t get the joke without telling me.

            Qualified immunity

            A significant amount of criticism contends that qualified immunity allows police brutality to go unpunished.[6] Legal researchers Amir H. Ali and Emily Clark, for instance, have argued that “qualified immunity permits law enforcement and other government officials to violate people’s constitutional rights with virtual impunity”.[45] Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor has noted a “disturbing trend” of siding with police officers using excessive force with qualified immunity,[46] describing it as “sanctioning a ‘shoot first, think later’ approach to policing”.

            The joke being that the suspect was an offer who showed up, claimed that their life was in danger, and shot everyone to death. The officer will then use qualified immunity as a defence to an extrajudicial killing.

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              Right, but the joke is based on the misconception that qualified immunity means immunity from prosecution, which is false.

              Spreading misinformation is always bad.

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                Right… You just clarified that they’re immune to civil litigation. And we all know they won’t be charged criminally. So what we’re saying is that they get off scot free.

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    This isn’t just assassination, it’s terrorism designed to scare opponents of Trump from speaking out. The media won’t say that, of course, because it’s likely the shooter is white.

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      Exactly that. Also, don’t forget that every chance they get they say “a man posing as a police officer” and they then describe that he was dressed exactly like a cop including a badge and cop car

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      It’s also done on no kings day so we all know what the headline will be. Doesn’t seem like a coincidence on reflection.

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      The shootings are the latest in a string of seemingly lone-wolf politically motivated violence.

      Good grief, could they whitewash this any harder?

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      It was planned to be a distraction so news coverage wouldn’t focus on all the protests today. Can’t show bigger crowds in rural America than whatever few bootlickers showed up to watch Trump’s birthday parade.

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        yea they need good sound bytes for fox, oan and newsmax, cant have them protesting news all the time. it makes trump look really bad.

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    “They will be prosecuting anyone involved to the fullest extent of the law,” Trump said in a statement. “Such horrific violence will not be tolerated in the United States of America.”

    Ah, like they did with the violent perpetrators of the January 6th insurrection, until you pardoned them all and set them free.