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    3 years ago

    With trains, you don’t arrive sweaty, you can’t get run down by cars, and someone else parks it

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      I ride a bike to work every day. I’m never sweaty. The infrastructure to cycle exists so I won’t get run over by cars.

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          Hills are only the problem if you’re not biking regularly. I’m way out of shape, but after a year on living in a country with good infrastructure, hills aren’t a problem for me anymore, really. But first couple of months it was a bit brutal, for sure.

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          I have an electric bike for the hills.

          Where I used to work it was downhill all the way there and uphill all the way back stupid way round of having it don’t want to get to work early.

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        Teach me the non-sweaty ways. I love my bike, but theres no way I can arrive not sweaty. Before you say go slow, I’m not letting no bus take my god-damn glory.

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            In Germany those are only allowed to assist you up to 25kph, which means they only help you going up hills, everywhere else will be the same amount of effort

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          Use a higher gear on 0% inclines? Once you get moving it takes very little effort to keep the bike going at a pretty good speed.

          I feel like the sweaty folk are all in 1st gear because it’s easier to pedal, but they have to be constantly pumping their legs to maintain speed, so elevated heart rate causes excessive perspiration.

          Also, like everyone else has already said, ebikes can help give you a break when needed and also help with the dreaded hills and steep inclines.

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          An Ebike is extremely helpful, especially if there are hills. Wear a breathable long sleeve SPF shirt. I like hemp and some of the stuff Colombia makes. If your route is safe enough don’t wear a helmet. Shorts and sandals are also helpful. I’ve had some success with lightweight merino clothes as well but they tend to get holey in a few years of frequent use

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    The Japanese used bikes to defeat the British in Singapore. The Vietnamese used bikes to defeat the Americans in Vietnam. The Chinese used bikes to destroy manufacturing in the west.

    I’ll be in the cold cold ground before I use some stupid commie machine powered by rice.

    All other arguments for not using a bike are stupid.

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    3 years ago

    "Cars are freedom! *

    Except for the monthly finance payment, the legal obligation to insurance companies, the dependance on oil companies, etc"

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    Screw that. I love paying for car insurance, gas, oil change, tires, and random bolts maintenance. There is also the thrill of driving in traffic, and dealing with road rage. There is plenty that makes the car the ideal transportation mode loved by the masses.

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    I never learned how to ride a bicycle, I should really get to it someday. I just walk everywhere I need to go, or use carpooling/bus/subway…

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      It’s not as hard as it seems. I have taught adults how to ride in a single afternoon and after their 3rd or 4th time out riding they are as confident as if they had been doing it since childhood.

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    Distance. An hour commute or a 20 minute trip to the grocery store. We killed walkable neighborhoods so now here we are. Trapped.

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          That’s why you don’t see 15 minute cities anymore. Capitalism already figured out that a few large stores allow you to hire more efficient numbers of employees, buy more for less, stock better variety, pass along some of the savings to customers and still make more profit than building lots and lots of repeated commercial infrastructure throughout residential areas. A return to that model would require more employees in low paying service jobs, and would sacrifice lower prices and better variety. Ironically, it would be far faster to use a car to skip from store to store to look for the best deals and the specific brands you want. I suppose we could also get rid of capitalism at the same time, but I’m not holding my breath. As much as I like the idea of walkable infrastructure, it comes at a cost that I am not sure many would be willing to pay.

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    Bruh I live 26 miles from where I work by car, and 21 miles by biking per Google Maps. And most of it is highway travel. It would make my commute over 1.5 hrs.

    It is the dream if/when we can move closer though.

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      if entire cities were designed around these the way they are with cars, everyone would be fine with it and you would live less than 6 miles from where you work.

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      Rookie numbers.

      Have you ever seen a walmart parking lot in person? You can fit the Netherlands and part of Belgium in one.

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    Cause you can’t actually GO anywhere on a bike. If you want to go somewhere 200 miles away for a week, it’d take a day and a half each way, minimum, and you can’t bring anything with you bigger than a backpack. It’s also physically strenuous to go literally anywhere, even the places you are allowed to go.

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      cities should look like this: bicycle/walking paths, trains, trams and buses. and a tiny road for the rare occasion you actually NEED a car. boom, problems solved. also mixed use zoning, rezone every city so it’s more compatible with a non car centric lifestyle

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    ok take a woman on a dinner and movie date with your bike. can you get to her place if someone is messing with her and she needs help?

    i like "bikes’ too but different modes of transportation have their merits gooners.

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    Bikes are ableist aren’t they? They work well for you if you don’t have any physical or cognitive issues.

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      A bike centric city would be just as, if not more, wheelchair friendly as a car centric one. There’s detachable front wheels that can be attached to wheelchairs and pedalled by hand so wheelchair users can use bike infrastructure just as well.

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      There are bikes for handicapped people. And if cognitive issues are a thing, then cars would be far more problematic: crash a bike into a person, you get minor wounds. Crash a car into a person, and you get a death caused by the car driver (who sometimes gets off scot free).

      And if something is ableist, it’s cars for disabling you from walking/wheelchairing anywhere safely due to the stroads taking up all the space.

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      Unless everyone has a bike.

      Think about it. No need to steal if it’s easy as fuck to obtain.

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          This is not the best argument. You could sell literally anything for drugs.

          If you wanted to tackle drug selling, the following works better:

          a) helping homeless people to get a home, b) unemployed people to get a job w/ livable wage, c) and having safe drugs made by hospitals under strict controls, and used by addicts in controlled environments like hospitals.

          The last one especially is crucial, however paradoxical it seems. It’s because then they don’t need to buy from other addicts or the sellers (who will be very dangerous), and don’t overdose, and with the extra money, can pay eg. rent, groceries.

          The “just kick off from drugs” doesn’t work - if you ever have had an addiction, you know that it’s hard. It only gets easier to kick off if other bad factors in life are removed. Only then is kicking off easier.

          Now, let’s wonder about cars…

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      Only if you have the bicycle equivalent of a Ferrari and don’t lock it. Same as cars really.