Nut milk is just nuts and water, you can make it yourself super easy.
Drinking the milk of another mammal after you were weaned is freaking weird and unique to humans and unnecessary and bad for the environment and isn’t done by a significant portion of the world’s population.
The ability to digest animal milk is literally a genetic mutation that was useful enough to have spread to about 40% of the world’s population. Milk is an amazing source of nutrients and before food was as secure as it is now it was a lifeline during long winters.
You can talk as moral as you like about your personal preferences but the genetic record clearly indicates that our ancestors needed animal milk to survive. And in today’s society with pasteurization making cow milk safe even in the midst of a H5N1 epidemic in cows it continues to be an amazing source of nutrients, giving a near complete baseline of nutrients for an individual’s diet. There’s a reason schools push kids to drink milk every day and it’s not just the dairy lobby
Your said so yourself, the genetic adaptation is present in a minority of the population and these days it’s not necessary in the vast majority of the world since the nutrients can easily be found elsewhere.
Yes, the reason why it’s pushed in schools is very much the dairy lobby. When Health Canada created the most recent food guide they got rid of the industry’s influence and instead focused on science… Well, dairy is pretty much gone, they only say small quantities of low fat dairy can be part of healthy eating habits.
Guess who was pissed? The dairy industry because it needs the publicity and getting removed showed Canadians that we were just fooled by marketers.
How does the majority of humans manage to survive without drinking it in school? 😱 Wake up, you’ve been had by a billions dollars multinational industry.
the genetic adaptation is present in a minority of the population
Yes a minority of the world population, but it is present in a majority of the American population (about 70%)
How does the majority of humans manage to survive without drinking it in school?
My point about the schools is that kids often have craptastic diets, be that due to poor parenting or just kids being picky eaters, and milk rounds out the diet and fills in the gaps since it’s such a great source of nutrients
Wake up, you’ve been had by a billions dollars multinational industry
Bro I just think milk and dairy tastes good (plus it’s full of good nutrients and pretty dang healthy) and you’re being weird about pushing your personal preferences on others while making vague moral judgments.
There’s a significant amount of processing going on in nut milk production. Yes you can make your own which is true for a lot of foods but the stuff you buy at the store is heavily processed.
Just because we’re the only mamal that does it doesn’t mean anything because we’re the only mamal that does a ton of stuff that doesn’t make it weird. It is definitely terrible for the planet but not sure what you mean by a significant portion of the worlds population. I’m pretty sure cheese is in almost all cultures or are you just saying straight milk.
Straight milk, lactose intolerance isn’t as much of an issue with cheese so it’s eaten all over the world, but drinking the milk itself is done by a minority.
Not the person you’re responding to, but I think that the argument “we shouldn’t do X because no other animals do it” is a bad argument in general and overall weakens your position. Because there are plenty of things that humans do that animals don’t do that are good (like developing and applying vaccines for example).
There are plenty of other valid and good reasons to promote dairy alternatives (such as health or environmental reasons).
In this case it very much is a good comparison because it’s something all other mammals do until they’re weaned and we used to act the same way until domestication. In the grand history of humanity, drinking milk is an anomaly.
Dining milk isn’t unique to humans, contrary to clothings and dentistry like someone else mentioned to try and back the exact same point you tried to make, it’s the fact that some of you can’t accept to stop drinking it and need to get it from other mammals because of lobbies that is unique.
I love milk but I do agree with you. Whenever I actually stop to think about it, the concept of milk is pretty damn weird. I feel the same way about eggs
I’m not against veganism and I’d probably be at least a vegetarian if lab grown meat was more widely available. I have celiac though so my food options are already limited so I don’t want to limit them further
You know what also isn’t done by a significant part of the world? Eating insects. But im not gonna go and call their eating habbits weird just because it’s not something I grew up with.
It’s called being tolerant and accepting of others culture.
those are impacts from production. once it’s produced, drinking it has no impact at all.
but I would be remiss if I didn’t point out that your link relies on poore-nemecek 2018, which ignores the fact that LCA studies cannot be combined. it’s bad science.
This must be a parody account or something. I can’t imagine anyone dumb enough to actually believe farmers will produce milk to rot ad infinitum without it ever being purchased. They couldn’t maintain production level without consumption even if they wanted to.
Nut milk is just nuts and water, you can make it yourself super easy.
Drinking the milk of another mammal after you were weaned is freaking weird and unique to humans and unnecessary and bad for the environment and isn’t done by a significant portion of the world’s population.
The ability to digest animal milk is literally a genetic mutation that was useful enough to have spread to about 40% of the world’s population. Milk is an amazing source of nutrients and before food was as secure as it is now it was a lifeline during long winters.
You can talk as moral as you like about your personal preferences but the genetic record clearly indicates that our ancestors needed animal milk to survive. And in today’s society with pasteurization making cow milk safe even in the midst of a H5N1 epidemic in cows it continues to be an amazing source of nutrients, giving a near complete baseline of nutrients for an individual’s diet. There’s a reason schools push kids to drink milk every day and it’s not just the dairy lobby
Your said so yourself, the genetic adaptation is present in a minority of the population and these days it’s not necessary in the vast majority of the world since the nutrients can easily be found elsewhere.
Yes, the reason why it’s pushed in schools is very much the dairy lobby. When Health Canada created the most recent food guide they got rid of the industry’s influence and instead focused on science… Well, dairy is pretty much gone, they only say small quantities of low fat dairy can be part of healthy eating habits.
https://food-guide.canada.ca/en/
Guess who was pissed? The dairy industry because it needs the publicity and getting removed showed Canadians that we were just fooled by marketers.
How does the majority of humans manage to survive without drinking it in school? 😱 Wake up, you’ve been had by a billions dollars multinational industry.
why are you trying to destroy an ethnic minority’s cultural foods?
Yes a minority of the world population, but it is present in a majority of the American population (about 70%)
My point about the schools is that kids often have craptastic diets, be that due to poor parenting or just kids being picky eaters, and milk rounds out the diet and fills in the gaps since it’s such a great source of nutrients
Bro I just think milk and dairy tastes good (plus it’s full of good nutrients and pretty dang healthy) and you’re being weird about pushing your personal preferences on others while making vague moral judgments.
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There’s a significant amount of processing going on in nut milk production. Yes you can make your own which is true for a lot of foods but the stuff you buy at the store is heavily processed.
Just because we’re the only mamal that does it doesn’t mean anything because we’re the only mamal that does a ton of stuff that doesn’t make it weird. It is definitely terrible for the planet but not sure what you mean by a significant portion of the worlds population. I’m pretty sure cheese is in almost all cultures or are you just saying straight milk.
Straight milk, lactose intolerance isn’t as much of an issue with cheese so it’s eaten all over the world, but drinking the milk itself is done by a minority.
So you are against clothes? Anither thing only humans do.
Or dentistry.
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Not the person you’re responding to, but I think that the argument “we shouldn’t do X because no other animals do it” is a bad argument in general and overall weakens your position. Because there are plenty of things that humans do that animals don’t do that are good (like developing and applying vaccines for example).
There are plenty of other valid and good reasons to promote dairy alternatives (such as health or environmental reasons).
In this case it very much is a good comparison because it’s something all other mammals do until they’re weaned and we used to act the same way until domestication. In the grand history of humanity, drinking milk is an anomaly.
Dining milk isn’t unique to humans, contrary to clothings and dentistry like someone else mentioned to try and back the exact same point you tried to make, it’s the fact that some of you can’t accept to stop drinking it and need to get it from other mammals because of lobbies that is unique.
The unique things about our species are some of the things that make life great
any predator would eat the mammaries of a pregnant or nursing prey animal
I love milk but I do agree with you. Whenever I actually stop to think about it, the concept of milk is pretty damn weird. I feel the same way about eggs
Sounding like a vegan before they’ve realised
I’m not against veganism and I’d probably be at least a vegetarian if lab grown meat was more widely available. I have celiac though so my food options are already limited so I don’t want to limit them further
You know what also isn’t done by a significant part of the world? Eating insects. But im not gonna go and call their eating habbits weird just because it’s not something I grew up with.
It’s called being tolerant and accepting of others culture.
drinking milk has no impact on the environment
What?
https://ourworldindata.org/environmental-impact-milks
those are impacts from production. once it’s produced, drinking it has no impact at all.
but I would be remiss if I didn’t point out that your link relies on poore-nemecek 2018, which ignores the fact that LCA studies cannot be combined. it’s bad science.
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how can you prove that?
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Do you think dairy cattle just randomly spawns on the planetary surface?
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Are you fucking with me?
High speed doesn’t kill anyone, it’s the sudden deceleration that does.
if we stop drinking milk, and it continues to be produced, the environmental impacts will not cease. if we stop production, it will.
Because if we don’t, milk farmers will just continue producing milk for what reason exactly?
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This must be a parody account or something. I can’t imagine anyone dumb enough to actually believe farmers will produce milk to rot ad infinitum without it ever being purchased. They couldn’t maintain production level without consumption even if they wanted to.