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      28 days ago

      for the millionth time they get to stand on the shoulders on all the wine development that came before it. and now we have to reckon with the bullshit of proton patches that never go upstream to make wine better for all

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        27 days ago

        for the millionth time

        Why are you mad at me? Have I ever even interacted with you before?

        Calm down.

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          27 days ago

          Coincidently one of the things they list (named pipes) as an improvement is something I’ve had a nuisance with for years. there’s multiple things that I would love wine to have that it does not but proton does

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            27 days ago

            @mactan @drosophila Problem I run into is most of the games I play have a rootkit anti-cheat and that does not work with wine. So I’m forced to do a virtual machine with virtual gpu pass-through. Big pain in the ass to setup and Ubuntu pretty regularly breaks it with various “upgrades”.

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        28 days ago

        Tbf if wine were released under regular GNU instead of LGPL, Valve wouldn’t have been able to make Proton proprietary, and so their contributions would also be open source. It is unfortunate that this is the situation, but by using the LGPL license WINE basically permitted this, no?

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            27 days ago

            Okay my bad, I think I just misunderstand BSD-3 and read somewhere that Proton is Valve’s proprietary software. In terms of open source software, the only licenses I’m really familiar with are GNU, Apache, and MIT. So I read one thing online saying Proton was proprietary and assumed BSD-3 was a proprietary license without looking into it further.

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        25 days ago

        Criticism may be justified, but without Proton, how far would wine have come? Without Steamdeck + proton, gaming would still be a no-go for linux and absolutely not worth mentioning. So fewer users would have switched to linux.

        OK let go back and bring wine forward … Maybe it will be something in 10-20 years ( well for released titles and not future Titels.)