“Is this the America we live in?” said one parent. “And it was this stupid, stupid technology that is just going through picking up random words and not looking at context.”
Having worked in quite a few fields in the last 15 years or so, it’s the same active shooter training they give everyone. Even in stores that sell guns.
I’ll let the reader decide how fucked up it is that there’s basically a countrywide accepted “standard response”
They’re not residents, you’re thinking of nursing homes. Roughly a third of hospital patients can walk without assistance, but yes. The rationale is staff doesn’t turn themselves into bullet sponges, because then who is left to remove the bullets once the shooter is dead? Either way, what do unarmed, untrained (to fight) people with the body armor equivalent of pajamas do to stop bullets?
The patient room doors don’t lock. Sometimes those doors are made of glass. But herding the patients who can walk into the halls is likely an opportunity for an active shooter to hit more targets. As such, everyone hunkers down, and the police take care of it. In theory, per the training modules. Police sometimes run drills with the hospital, depending on locale and interagency dealings.
Shutting all the fire doors is likely the only defense. Those nurses can be crafty on the fly, but there are limitations.
I can’t imagine a secondary piece of this policy isn’t hospitals avoiding liability regarding workplace injury/death lawsuits.
I just hadn’t known until now that in grasping for solutions schools found the standardized hospital policy and are running with it.
In theory. Realistically it’s also about what you’re shot with and where. A robust man shot in the gut with a standard .22 that doesn’t ricochet or hit anything immediately vital probably isn’t even going to ICU after the bullet is fished out. 9mm changes the odds on everything. Again though, 1 bullet to the gut may not be an ICU scenario after surgery, depending. An AK/AR though, why are they even legal for civilians?
A child, with any bullet, I don’t like to think about it.
To the gut? It doesn’t matter what the round is. You’re going to the ICU. A .22 isn’t as non-lethal as the memes like to make it out to be, and your gut is a bunch of very critical soft tissue.
If it’s to the arm or something, fine. Anywhere in the torso, you’re going to the ICU most likely.
Knowing that Europe literally has a problem with its soccer audiences making monkey noises at black athletes makes this particular bit of condescension all the more ridiculous.
The Asiaphobia that still goes on in the UK is absurd…
I’ll still never get over the British Dub of Takeshi’s Castle referring to contestants as “Happy Clappy Jappy Chappies” and “Kamikaze Cousins”
A shame, I really wanted to watch that version, it has Craig Charles doing the narrating, but… sorry Lister, seems you can’t help but be a smeghead around the Japanese.
“Daily murder” is a sneaky rhetorical maneuver, considering it’s something influenced more by raw population size, than by capita. It’s easy for there to be a “daily murder” in a country of 340,000,000 people, even when the overwhelmingly vast majority of people do not murder.
Using “few” to trivialize/minimize the racism is no better.
That’s because US population has too much freedom. Gotta keep a boot on peoples neck to maintain control. Look at the 466+ people arrested for protesting
The issue here is that the authorities are letting a piece of half-ass code (Read: AI) decide what is a legitimate threat and, worse still, acting on that determination without question.
Yeah, at the very least, the software should be passing on the statement, and context surrounding it, along with its ‘judgment’, to the authorities, putting all the responsibility for making the call that X genuinely merits action on said authorities.
Of course, that’s just one piece of the puzzle, and not a solution if law enforcement isn’t held accountable when they fuck up.
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Man, if only there was a good way to stop school shooting
Alas, one can only dream
“no way to stop this” says the only country where this happens
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I didn’t realize the schools were using Run, Hide, Fight. That is the same policy for hospital staff in the event of an active shooter. Maddening.
Having worked in quite a few fields in the last 15 years or so, it’s the same active shooter training they give everyone. Even in stores that sell guns.
I’ll let the reader decide how fucked up it is that there’s basically a countrywide accepted “standard response”
Thank you for widening this perspective. I had no idea, but it fits.
I’m sorry, in hospitals? Where a significant portion of the patients can do none of those things?
They’re not residents, you’re thinking of nursing homes. Roughly a third of hospital patients can walk without assistance, but yes. The rationale is staff doesn’t turn themselves into bullet sponges, because then who is left to remove the bullets once the shooter is dead? Either way, what do unarmed, untrained (to fight) people with the body armor equivalent of pajamas do to stop bullets?
The patient room doors don’t lock. Sometimes those doors are made of glass. But herding the patients who can walk into the halls is likely an opportunity for an active shooter to hit more targets. As such, everyone hunkers down, and the police take care of it. In theory, per the training modules. Police sometimes run drills with the hospital, depending on locale and interagency dealings.
Shutting all the fire doors is likely the only defense. Those nurses can be crafty on the fly, but there are limitations.
I can’t imagine a secondary piece of this policy isn’t hospitals avoiding liability regarding workplace injury/death lawsuits.
I just hadn’t known until now that in grasping for solutions schools found the standardized hospital policy and are running with it.
I guess that the hospital is one of the better places to get shot.
In theory. Realistically it’s also about what you’re shot with and where. A robust man shot in the gut with a standard .22 that doesn’t ricochet or hit anything immediately vital probably isn’t even going to ICU after the bullet is fished out. 9mm changes the odds on everything. Again though, 1 bullet to the gut may not be an ICU scenario after surgery, depending. An AK/AR though, why are they even legal for civilians?
A child, with any bullet, I don’t like to think about it.
To the gut? It doesn’t matter what the round is. You’re going to the ICU. A .22 isn’t as non-lethal as the memes like to make it out to be, and your gut is a bunch of very critical soft tissue.
If it’s to the arm or something, fine. Anywhere in the torso, you’re going to the ICU most likely.
Hospital staff.
I missed that part lol, mb
Why maddening? The active shooter response shouldn’t be all that different.
You should try Europe once. It’s more fun than your 3rd world country.
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Knowing that Europe literally has a problem with its soccer audiences making monkey noises at black athletes makes this particular bit of condescension all the more ridiculous.
Idiots and assholes exist everywhere. At least ours don’t have guns.
Yeah, they use knives instead.
The knife homicide rate is literally higher in the US.
If you think I’m trying to say the US is better… by any measure LOL! -No. The US is a shithole.
My point is that if you take guns out of the equation they’ll just be replaced by something else.
My point is that your comment makes it sound like gun control would solve nothing. That patently isn’t the case.
This isn’t the flex you think it is.
Wasn’t intended to be. But evil people will find a way to do evil.
Yes, but one of those things is capable of a lot more damage in a much shorter amount of time.
You’ll also have a hard time knifing people from a window with a wide vantage point.
Knives are dangerous, and evil people will be evil. But should we just hand out rocket launchers on the side of the road because knives exist?
It’s an absurd suggestion, obviously. So is “knives exist so guns are fine.”
You keep putting words in my mouth so this conversation is over.
A lot of Europe seems to somehow have worse racism in some areas than the US. Ask a couple English people what they think of travellers and Muslims.
Is this better, worse, or the same as throwing dildos at female WNBA athletes?
The Asiaphobia that still goes on in the UK is absurd…
I’ll still never get over the British Dub of Takeshi’s Castle referring to contestants as “Happy Clappy Jappy Chappies” and “Kamikaze Cousins”
A shame, I really wanted to watch that version, it has Craig Charles doing the narrating, but… sorry Lister, seems you can’t help but be a smeghead around the Japanese.
Reddit moment: comparing a few racist idiots with daily murders.
I think if the matches are having to be stopped, it’s probably more than a few.
“Daily murder” is a sneaky rhetorical maneuver, considering it’s something influenced more by raw population size, than by capita. It’s easy for there to be a “daily murder” in a country of 340,000,000 people, even when the overwhelmingly vast majority of people do not murder.
Using “few” to trivialize/minimize the racism is no better.
Shame on you for this disingenuousness.
Even when we go per capita the US stays a shithole, it’s not like they were trying to actively misinform people.
That’s because US population has too much freedom. Gotta keep a boot on peoples neck to maintain control. Look at the 466+ people arrested for protesting
https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-police-arrest-more-than-466-protest-banned-palestine-action-group-2025-08-09/
Agreed on the condescension, that was uncalled for. Your whataboutism sucks though.
What do you mean, “try Europe?”
The police are not effective at dealing with school shootings.
Authorities be like “aww shoot, not again.”
Yeah, at the very least, the software should be passing on the statement, and context surrounding it, along with its ‘judgment’, to the authorities, putting all the responsibility for making the call that X genuinely merits action on said authorities.
Of course, that’s just one piece of the puzzle, and not a solution if law enforcement isn’t held accountable when they fuck up.