He was not struck with a bullet. It was shrapnel from one of the nearby screens. There’s a reason they didn’t release the first medical report and took a week to get their favorite lying doctor (who is not a practice doctor any longer because he’s in Congress) to release his own lie filled report.
A bullet would have torn off a hunk of his ear. We’ve seen the lack of wound within days of the event.
This is the first time I heard of this and made me really curious. I tried my best to find any proof, confirmations or fact checking sites backing up this claim, but nada. Either the dude has succesfully paid literally everyone to lie, or, sometimes the truth sounds worse than a lie and our cognitive function really wants approvals for that.
If you have something solid, please send it to me, wish I could use this argument, but at this point I’d feel like yellow press
After much debate, the FBI report settled on bullet or bullet shrapnel but there was no conclusive evidence as Cheeto bandito refused to be checked out or let doctors talk about it.
The idea above was an initial theory by Internet no lifers. The more common one now is that he hit his head on a secret service pistol when ducking.
The proof is in that hidden first doctor report that they refused to publish before getting the guy who tried to tell us he was a trim 230 and 6’3" to make the statement.
And the fact that we could see his ear days afterwards without a scratch on it. Given that this is medical in nature, the number of people who even had access to that is small, and right wing media will repeat whatever lie he tells, it suits their narrative best. Regardless of how obviously untrue it is
This, I can believe. Now, it’s not necessarily true it would’ve mangled his ear if it was a grazing shot, but a graze likely wouldn’t have bled quite as much as Donald’s wound did. A small laceration from a piece of plastic that had been, uh, acutely accelerated in his direction makes a lot more sense.
A bullet would have to actually hit the ear for what you describe. But I guess you have a vested interest in not at least trying to understand this.
You understand that the space-time we inhabit, or at least I do, has a very high resolution? The bullet can be any distance at all from the ear as it flies by.
Yes, I understand that a bullet would have had to actually hit him for it to cause a bullet wound. Which he clearly did not have given how minor it was and quickly it healed. And that he hid the real doctor’s report.
This isn’t Hollywood. A graze wound from a 5.56x45mm round at supersonic velocities doesn’t leave a small, easily healed cut; it transfers a portion of the bullet’s kinetic energy into the tissue, in a radiating pressure wave that tears, shatters, and emulsifies the surrounding tissue. Even the slightest amount of contact transfers enough energy to cause wounds that take a substantial amount of time to heal, even more so with an ear that is primarily cartilage, which doesn’t, itself, heal.
A graze would have resulted in needing reconstructive surgery that would have taken months to heal and would have had visible bruising much longer than his ear bandage was worn. Graze from fragments or debris? Sure, that’s a lot different than his claim. And it’s at least equally likely that he cut his ear when tackled, which would be consistent with the seen wound as well as the lack of visible scarring or need for reconstructive surgery.
You’re playing with words. We have video of what happened.
Not playing with words. The 5.56mm bullet had around 1.8kJ of energy, mostly from velocity. Dumping even a fraction of that into human tissue can cause rather devastating effects, with additional effects from the pressure wave from traveling at supersonic speeds. It’s not like in the movies or video games where just getting “winged” is not a big deal.
I understand what they’re claiming. That, however, is not what happened. You don’t need to get a second doctor to “corroborate” the nature of your injury if your story is true. The first one would have been fine. But they hid that.
And the injury clearly wasn’t bad enough to need actual extra consultation.
When moving at supersonic velocities, barely nicking something is still enough to transfer enough energy into the ear to, at minimum, leave visible scarring, more likely, require reconstructive surgery.
IIRC this was debunked, there’s image of the bullet trail going past his ear. There was also no screen nearby that launched shrapnel in his direction iirc.
Independent forensic experts also weighed in stating it’s extremely unlikely it wasn’t a bullet:
Diaczuk echoed the Times’ findings, pointing out that there were no objects between Crooks and Trump that logically could have created flying debris, and that the podium and seats behind Trump happened to be positioned in such a way that the laws of physics made it unlikely he was hit by a fragment of either, he told The Independent.
Do you have any evidence that shows where the supposed glass shrapnel came from? I understand not liking Trump (I detest him too), but come on. It was an assassination attempt, he was very lightly grazed by the bullet.
Wray initially came out saying it was still unclear if Trump was hit. After investigation it was concluded he was.
I cited sources and showed evidence, you haven’t shown anything. Either find some proof for your assertions or admit you were wrong.
There was nothing in between Crooks and Trump that was hit and could have launched shrapnel at Trump. And it’s hilarious to think the USSS “hip-checked” him when we have clear photo evidence of two skin-grazings on his ear.
He was not struck with a bullet. It was shrapnel from one of the nearby screens. There’s a reason they didn’t release the first medical report and took a week to get their favorite lying doctor (who is not a practice doctor any longer because he’s in Congress) to release his own lie filled report.
A bullet would have torn off a hunk of his ear. We’ve seen the lack of wound within days of the event.
This is the first time I heard of this and made me really curious. I tried my best to find any proof, confirmations or fact checking sites backing up this claim, but nada. Either the dude has succesfully paid literally everyone to lie, or, sometimes the truth sounds worse than a lie and our cognitive function really wants approvals for that.
If you have something solid, please send it to me, wish I could use this argument, but at this point I’d feel like yellow press
After much debate, the FBI report settled on bullet or bullet shrapnel but there was no conclusive evidence as Cheeto bandito refused to be checked out or let doctors talk about it.
The idea above was an initial theory by Internet no lifers. The more common one now is that he hit his head on a secret service pistol when ducking.
Trump’s ear getting scratched after getting tackled by the Secret Service was my first thought when I saw the photo.
I don’t think a bullet got close.
I did see a video that postulated he was hit in the head by one of the USSS agents’ holsters
The proof is in that hidden first doctor report that they refused to publish before getting the guy who tried to tell us he was a trim 230 and 6’3" to make the statement.
And the fact that we could see his ear days afterwards without a scratch on it. Given that this is medical in nature, the number of people who even had access to that is small, and right wing media will repeat whatever lie he tells, it suits their narrative best. Regardless of how obviously untrue it is
I hate how easily I can imagine religious folks seeing this as a positive sign, instead of as a suspicious one.
This, I can believe. Now, it’s not necessarily true it would’ve mangled his ear if it was a grazing shot, but a graze likely wouldn’t have bled quite as much as Donald’s wound did. A small laceration from a piece of plastic that had been, uh, acutely accelerated in his direction makes a lot more sense.
This or getting cut when tackled/ducking really make the most sense and match the injury characteristics the most.
He probably wasn’t even hit by that. Blood capsules are cheap, probably a trick he learned from his work with the WWE.
I doubt he had those with him. Just in case this happened. He’s not that quick a thinker. And he’d never agree to be near live rounds.
A bullet would have to actually hit the ear for what you describe. But I guess you have a vested interest in not at least trying to understand this.
You understand that the space-time we inhabit, or at least I do, has a very high resolution? The bullet can be any distance at all from the ear as it flies by.
Is this clear?
Yes, I understand that a bullet would have had to actually hit him for it to cause a bullet wound. Which he clearly did not have given how minor it was and quickly it healed. And that he hid the real doctor’s report.
It grazed him. What is difficult to understand here?
This isn’t Hollywood. A graze wound from a 5.56x45mm round at supersonic velocities doesn’t leave a small, easily healed cut; it transfers a portion of the bullet’s kinetic energy into the tissue, in a radiating pressure wave that tears, shatters, and emulsifies the surrounding tissue. Even the slightest amount of contact transfers enough energy to cause wounds that take a substantial amount of time to heal, even more so with an ear that is primarily cartilage, which doesn’t, itself, heal.
A graze would have resulted in needing reconstructive surgery that would have taken months to heal and would have had visible bruising much longer than his ear bandage was worn. Graze from fragments or debris? Sure, that’s a lot different than his claim. And it’s at least equally likely that he cut his ear when tackled, which would be consistent with the seen wound as well as the lack of visible scarring or need for reconstructive surgery.
Then it wasn’t a graze wound. What if the bullet is 0.1mm further out than would be needed for a “graze”?
You’re playing with words. We have video of what happened.
Maybe you’d prefer it was a Sasquatch with a directed energy weapon.
Not playing with words. The 5.56mm bullet had around 1.8kJ of energy, mostly from velocity. Dumping even a fraction of that into human tissue can cause rather devastating effects, with additional effects from the pressure wave from traveling at supersonic speeds. It’s not like in the movies or video games where just getting “winged” is not a big deal.
So even if it’s 4mm away? 5mm? 6mm? 7mm? 8? 9?
You argue as if you can be equally injured in a car crash by being a bystander because of the energy of a speeding car. Like, no?
You just like reading what you type, not making sense.
I understand what they’re claiming. That, however, is not what happened. You don’t need to get a second doctor to “corroborate” the nature of your injury if your story is true. The first one would have been fine. But they hid that.
And the injury clearly wasn’t bad enough to need actual extra consultation.
People seem to think it should have torn his ear clean off. Bullets can barely nick things.
When moving at supersonic velocities, barely nicking something is still enough to transfer enough energy into the ear to, at minimum, leave visible scarring, more likely, require reconstructive surgery.
No. They either ricochet off the drywall to make a cool peeeinggg sound effect, or splatter you like a bug in Starship Troopers. Even a .22 short.
But every gun is a M2 or Barrett.
IIRC this was debunked, there’s image of the bullet trail going past his ear. There was also no screen nearby that launched shrapnel in his direction iirc.
Video of a bullet paint behind his head from the perspective of a the camera doors not prove it hit him. Sorry
Factcheck showing no images or video of broken glass nearby: https://www.yahoo.com/news/fact-check-rumor-shards-glass-232900180.html
FBI also confirmed the bullet lightly grazed him: https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/07/30/congress/no-doubt-trump-was-hit-by-bullet-00171861
(Paywalled) NYT analysis also suggests it was a bullet: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/26/us/politics/trump-shooter-bullet-trajectory-ear.html
Independent forensic experts also weighed in stating it’s extremely unlikely it wasn’t a bullet:
Do you have any evidence that shows where the supposed glass shrapnel came from? I understand not liking Trump (I detest him too), but come on. It was an assassination attempt, he was very lightly grazed by the bullet.
Because the FBI has never said something to support him before. Their “what else could it have been” is not actual confirmation.
It was either shrapnel from something nearby, or the USSS hip checked him with their holster. He was not struck by a bullet.
Nice proof there?
Wray initially came out saying it was still unclear if Trump was hit. After investigation it was concluded he was.
I cited sources and showed evidence, you haven’t shown anything. Either find some proof for your assertions or admit you were wrong.
There was nothing in between Crooks and Trump that was hit and could have launched shrapnel at Trump. And it’s hilarious to think the USSS “hip-checked” him when we have clear photo evidence of two skin-grazings on his ear.