Curious if anyone has the original Universal Monk comment handy.

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    And here I thought Lemmy was too small to have prominent trolls. Thanks for the head’s up.

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    serious question, does shitjustworks have a reputation as a conservative community? I guess I do most of my browsing in the all feed so maybe I just haven’t seen it? definitely not the instance I’d like to be on if that’s the case 😅

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      I think they’re referring to the /c/conservative community ON shitjustworks. I certainly have never experienced the instance in general leaning conservative.

    • Universal Monk@sh.itjust.works
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      serious question, does shitjustworks have a reputation as a conservative community?

      No. And the person in OP’s example isn’t on shitjustworks. It says Donald J Musk@lemmy.today

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      Nope, because it’s not a duplicate comment. I have no idea why the mod said that. lol

      My post history is public, so anyone can take a look.

      And I’m not a conservative anyway, so no clue why they’re attacking that person for being me. I still post everywhere, so I have no need for a whole fake conservative persona.

      It’s Lemmy though. The haters here see me in everyone they disagree with.

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      Except it’s not my username. My username is Universal Monk. This whole thread is about how they banned someone for being me, even tho it’s not me.

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      He started up another “thenewdonald” comm with a pinned manifesto, dude’s certifiable

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        This community is dedicated to supporting the ideals of freedom, patriotism, and standing up against censorship.

        While we honor diverse opinions, we focus on promoting positivity, constructive conversation, and a commitment to the truth. Join us as we build a platform where everyone can share their voice and contribute to shaping the future.

        Holy hell, that’s hilarious coming from that ragebait fascist weirdo!

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          Could someone show me the most fascist thing he ever said so that this doesn’t come off to me as the witch hunting style of allegations I always see?

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    He’s a spicy one, I’ve been poking him for a week or two. He’s about to snap, I can feel it in my bones.

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      Did it occur to anyone that “triggering” those who have had or are on the verge of a complete mental break could exacerbate the issues? Like do we really want to be the straw that causes a suicide or mass shooting?

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        You ain’t wrong but also there is the classic FAFO maxim.

        If you monk says stupid shit, we can’t expect people NOT to return the favour.

        But yea if you sense somebody is not mentally well, then people best to take the high road.

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      He’s a spicy one, I’ve been poking him for a week or two. He’s about to snap

      That sounds like you’re admitting to trolling. Are you talking about me, or the guy in OP’s post?

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        I feel approaching storms in my bones. But I’m also old as dirt.

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          Wait until you get hearing aids. My friend’s grandmother had one of those cochlear types of hearing aids, and she could hear thunderstorms before they were supposed to even occur.

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    sEriOus ConSerVative ComMuniTy

    Literally an oxymoron and trust me, I know because I have seen more of it than any of you combined.
    It’s mostly all based on: we must make leftist cry. Such seriousness, the very core of it is fundamentally a joke.

    No wonder right leaning instance is just shitposts and memes galore. This is basically what modern conservatism is.

    • RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works
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      The sad fact is America needs an actual conservative movement that isn’t just nazis in hiding. Im not sure it can exist anymore as conservatives havent had a “normal” party in 30+ years

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        Does it though? I mean that would be better than fascism, no doubt, but what are we trying to conserve, really?

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            By private sphere do you mean people’s private lives and activities or corporate political organizations? If the former, then I agree, if the latter then those are in dire need of disruption.

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            Conservatives haven’t had fiscal responsibility in probably near 50 years. People should absolutely stop equating conservatives to fiscal responsibility. It’s a lie conservatives keep telling each other.

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            Ideally fiscal responsibility and a resistance to government intrusion in the private sphere.

            Which is what libertarians and a LOT of republicans want. But for some reason, Lemmy seems to hate libertarians even more than republicans. lol

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      No wonder right leaning instance is just shitposts and memes galore.

      A conservative visiting lemmy would say the exact same thing. The difference in my mind is that right-wing memes mostly leave me thinking, “No one says or believes that. Fuck you on about?”

      Same thoughts I have talking to conservatives IRL. Having only been presented with the most outlandish fruitcakes, they’ve brainwashed into thinking there are legions of fucking nutcase left-wingers out there.

      For left-wingers making fun, yeah, the memes more often reflect what the right actually says and believes.

      (Yes, I’m biased, but I try really hard to be objective.)

      • 𝓔𝓶𝓶𝓲𝓮@lemm.ee
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        As a budding radical centrist I hate every cuck winger with equal passion. The left however has some merit to protect the minorities and at least in theory aims to reduce inequalities. The far left are bunch of unfunny idiots however

        Internet exclusive breed of far left ohhh these are people that should be branded with red hot iron

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          radical centrist

          So… Half-racist? I’m not sure compromising with bigots is something to crow about.

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            No. It’s more like hating and bashing everyone equally.
            It is a radical oppression of radicalism and rejection of demented idealism that I deliver in short precision strikes to the unsuspecting.

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                I don’t know, but it is always very entertaining. It provides sufficient level to stave off boredom in apotheka queues or waiting for mini paint to dry out

                Internet is PvP CoD mobile without shitty controls. Centrism is like the most funny cheesy class in this digital sandbox of pointless eternal arguments

                As for my real views I guess that would be what makes me the most money and convenience at the moment if I am brutally honest. Some kind of trans matriarchy capital paradise party. Let’s call it technofeminocapitalism? but generally I vote mainstream left out of pragmatic necessity. They don’t care about economic leftism after all so it aligns with my interests and goals considering I am in the upper class after all.

                If I were in the lower class I am not sure if I would vote at all. There seems to be no party that cares about the wage workers

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              No. It’s more like hating and bashing everyone equally.

              I can respect that! You and me are closer in spirit than apart, friend. Lemmy loves to say I’m conservative, but I’m actually a socialist. And I voted socialist in the election. Which is what started all of this and why Lemmy is still mad at me.

              Attention Lemmy: Me voting socialist in the election did NOT make Trump win. lol

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    I’d seen comments about this account before and noted how the phrasing and comment behavior was a dead ringer for Universal Monk’s usual bullshit. Glad to see others saw the same thing.

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      Donald J Musk stopped posting for the better part of a week and almost all activity stopped on their comms for a while.

      Must be fun talking to yourself through different accounts :)

      Edit: reread my comment again slowly, you’ll get it :)

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        So if he stopped, then why did they ban him thinking he was me? And in OP’s post, the example says it’s a word-for-word copy of one of my comments. But I don’t have any comments that say that.

        So I’m still not even sure why he was banned. Plus, he’s still posting, so it wasn’t an instance ban.

        He’s not me by the way, so make no difference to me. But you all and your witch-hunts are getting crazy. I’m right here. No need to go seeing me in everyone else. :)

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      I think the conservative com there got taken over by mods that aren’t right-wing and now exists to make fun of the right. I don’t particularly care but I can see why rightists might not love this.

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        Yes I actually tried joining a few conservative communities for rational and productive discourse. The “progressive” mods deleted my good faith posts and comments, brigaded and made outright hostile comments. God forbid people seek common ground and building bridges, rather than do the exact things we get upset with “the other side” for doing. They certainly have me not rethinking my values, but certainly rethinking with whom I want to align for the greatest good of our people as a whole, regardless of political leanings.

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          Unfortunately the only common ground online right now is toxicity, group-think, and mutual hostility. That said, I honestly think outreach to most people on the right is a waste of time, at least online. I’ve tried to educate people for so long but the cult mentality is too strong to overcome. Maybe a more relationship-centered approach could work, I haven’t tried this. But that would take a huge amount of energy and effort.

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            You’re generally right about group-think and hostility, but the couple of good-faith exchanges I had with right wingers may have gotten a couple of snarky replies (maybe pre-emptive defense from being heavily attacked, prior?) but also half-hearted attempts at engagement and addressing my points until the “progressives” came in and did what they do. It’s sad, I don’t even want to alienate others, preemptively, by calling myself that. Leftist definitely does that. And I’m probably some conglomeration of leftist and libertarian (in the global sense, not the Yankee sense) with a sprinkling of anarchism, somewhere in the mix. I’m not sure yet. I’m not exactly in the process of changing my core values, more somewhat refining them into a more mature form. It’s not quite personal anomie, but I haven’t found my solid footing yet on the shifting ground beneath them.

            Anyway, thank you for a bit of understanding. I appreciate it more than you know.

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          There are plenty of conservative spaces online and it’s exceedingly rare where “good faith” and “rational” conversations are possible.

          The fact that this one is a satire of that and folks are upset is hilarious to me

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      Not that I know of, this is just the unhinged rant of a madman.

      I think the conservative community was abandoned there, letting it go to seed with people who aren’t in that cult.

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          Please post proof that I’m racist or that I’ve said anything racist. You can’t. Because I’m not. I’m actually bi-racial and have been on the receiving end of racism.

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          I remember how the Catholic schools in my area would teach the kids how to read very, very late, and so one day someone came up with a van that says “free balloons” and none of the kids even paid attention until a teen from a random school got a balloon and all the Catholic kids were like “he’s stealing a balloon! He’s a sinner!”

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          It’s fake friendliness for exactly this reason. He thinks it makes it so he can say anything he wants, as long as he ends it with “:)”

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            Oh, that’s what people meant. I joked about it because I can’t help but get Homer Simpson vibes seeing someone complain about friendliness without context.

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      Is there something weird with shitjustworks

      No. Great instance. Great admins. No one should be bringing in the shitjustworks instance into this drama. The admins there are amazing.