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  • SparrowHawk@feddit.ittome_irl@lemmy.worldme_irl
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    Maybe naturalizing the incapacity for critical thought to be heard is the problem?

    “You will be seen as malcontent”

    Good. There’s no reason to be compliant to cruelty, if 1 person out of 1000 learns something it will be progress. Otherwise we just let the world forget empathy. Empathy, community, love, the things that allowed us to comunicate, to cooperate.

    To exist as Human beings, to protect us from the uncaring world.

    It is friendship that is the ultimate measure of progress. And friends don’t let friends be nazis






  • What i meant by owing our existence to it is that the natural world is everything, literally, it doesn’t matter if we modify it, for we are natural too, and so is our behavior. Maybe owe is the wrong word, it’s not my intention to force some religious-adjacent message to this. Technology is nature elaborated by consciousness, which is natural too, unless you assume an outside influence. That connection is why I think it can ultimately be unhealthy to feel this way, it’s a negativity that one way or the other can be reflected in the end product.

    Let me be clear, I don’t think your viewpoint is invalid, nor wrong. I am no one to tell you what to do or think. I am just sharing how I perceive it, and why.

    I don’t think we are being defiant of nature, for it is our nature to be defiant. It’s a contradiction, a superposition of intention, that I think is mirrored in many contradictions of the fundamental rules of the Cosmos. Evolution is made from mutation, and memetic mutation is the latest and fastest expression of Life, or rather, Existence. Now I am putting some “religious” undertones. It’s my way to reach spirituality through scientific notions. I am not an academic and I don’t pretend I can get an objective view, just a spiritually healthy one (spirit = mind = soul, to me)

    Unwillingness to compromise with the forces of nature is not what led to civilization. Humans went a long way before they could have the means to ignore certain limitations the world imposed on them. And now the earth under those means is crumbling, and the assumption that technology is separate or “better” than nature is falling apart.

    I did not wish to assume you acted like those responsible for these failings, but I do want to caution you against that ontological perspective. I think there’s value in it, and risk too, as there is in mine.

    I agree in a sense that bodies are prisons. Probabilistic cages that help us manifest from the singularity. All matter composing you and me existed way before it was you and me, but that matter could not think or feel or argue or suffer or smile before they coalesced in their current form.

    That is why we are the Cosmos knowing itself. Not because it “wants” to but because we are it and are experiencing it. I am glad you have this disposition towards discussion and your own viewpoints, I appreciate that way of thinking and I try to do the same

    I have not read the other replies, but consider that you might be biased by your viewpoint to see them as less coherent than they are, as viewpoints do. We humans struggle to see how much of our thought is lost in translation when it’s passed into word.

    All of that said, in the grand scheme of things it’s a false dichotomy to distinguish between “natural” and “unnatural”, but I appreciate the Mechanicus angle nonetheless, though I do not share it anymore.

    p.s. I cannot imagine having an LSD trip in a Starbucks and NOT have a panic attack, the only trip where i haven’t felt any anxiety was the first one, with close friends in the middle of a grove in front of a small lake. The other better ones where at home, though, but I do live in a very green place













  • Firstly, I’d like to thank you for the thoughtful comment, it gave me a lot to think about, and i’m grateful. I did not feel you were trying to bring me down, quite the opposite.

    I guess my problem is that i try to articulate my thoughts as much as possible because i fear being misunderstood. It relates to my childhood experiences and my personal social difficulties, i struggle with neurodivergence so communication doesn’t often come natural to me, so I try to explain things as best as i understand them and in the end i prove that i don’t understand them very well. My countermeasures trip my tongue and often i feel like i’ve exhaustively explained something only to find the persone in front of me, somewhat dumbfounded at best and irate at worst.

    This happens specially with complex topics that charge me emotionally.

    Add to that the fact that i’m not a native english speaker so maybe it is more prominent in this kind of writing. This excessive articulation then also happens internally when I think about my emotions and perceptions and i’m pretty sure it hinders my ability to understand myself. It’s also very energy-consuming.

    Thank you again for giving me this opportunity to being constructive to myself in such a respectful way, it’s rare to find in the internet these days and i genuinely appreciate it


  • I think we have an ecolutionary predisposition to be very defensive when we feel threatened. Add that to a social environment where we are CONSTANTLY and artificially condititioned to be threatened, considering that emotional intelligence and the ability to articolate and understand your own thoughts (let alone other’s) are virtually never taught if not en passant and indirectly (and often the wrong this are taught) and you have the perfect recipe for the Tower of Babel.

    Humankind’s inherent incommunicability of internal thought is paired with an artificial and political cooptation of our survival instincts, the ones we evolved to defend ourselves from the people that a re manipulating us right now. That’s the reason antiauthoritarian thought is often patologized. They name the cure a sickness so that we keep ourselves under the Veil