Oh for FUCKS SAKE. Even after defeating a objectively bad progressive, this moderate dumbass cannot help but keep on snatching defeat from the jaws of victory by ignoring the people who will vote him in.

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    I mean that;s fine, I’ll just say she was dog shit at politics then and a empirically bad candidate that had no political sense that she couldn’t win run a campaign on great ideas that others made work. I mean even in Florida, FLORIDA for fucks sake, her fellow DSA candidate won her primary and other progressives were running won.

    Hong was just bad at everything, couldn’t or wouldn’t address her controversial post history. She was bad at her debates. She was so timid that she couldn’t stand up for what she believed in. She was so bad that Sanders didn’t endorse her.

    And even with all of that, she still barely lost. People want the policies but not with someone that came off as incompetent as her and not every progressive candidate is a good one, she was just particularly dog ass shit.

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      I’ll just say she was dog shit at politics

      Sure. She should have backed genocide in Gaza and data centers squatting on your front lawn. Then she’d have won against the guy who got back in the race because a bird told him to do it in a dream.

      People want the policies

      Not the people profiting off the status quo

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        Oh for fucks sake. You are such a unserious person with your bullshit strawman, perpetual victimhood.

        Again, other progressives like El-Sayed, Angie Nixon, Miranda Lopez, N’Kiyla Jasmine Thomas have all ran with progressive politics, being against APIAC, being against the war in Gaza, being against the tech bros and they WON their elections just fine against their moderate opponents. You just can’t admit that she was just too damn flawed and weak willed to be seen as serious. and lost because of that.

        Me and you, we will never see eye to eye on things as you cannot see past your perceived victimhood just as bad as any MAGA extremist and can’t have any introspection, it’s always the fault of someone else.

        Thank god non-internet progressives actually have sense in their heads to learn.

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          you cannot see past your perceived victimhood just as bad as any MAGA extremist

          This seems like the go-to any time you get into any kind of policy dispute.

          “Everyone I disagree with is MAGA”

          Thank god non-internet progressives actually have sense

          I gotta wonder if you know any. They must have a lot of patience to listen to a guy like you heckling them constantly.

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      Bernie didn’t endorse her the same reason he didn’t endorse Angie Nixon - they were both candidates in states where he didn’t feel hopeful for a win and he didn’t want to risk being blamed had they lost.

      Part of the reason Nixon won was due to her finding a coalition between white liberals and black voters.

      Hong barely lost, or in other words, she could have just as well won. Abdul could just have easily lost, but he benefited from having Bernie’s endorsement and being the first to have Hasan rally with him. There was way more media attention on his campaign than there was on Hong’s. By that time, the media had developed their playbook: dig up pointless social media posts; point out the most “radical” policies from the DSA platform; condemn the candidate for associating with Hasan Piker.

      You clearly didn’t follow the campaign that closely if you’re just finding out now that her opponent supported data centers.

      I doubt her post history had as much as the media claims it did, and if you are among those people that believe it did, you are just as gullible to the bullshit the media spins.