• WaxRhetorical@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      You guys need to fix your system from the ground up, it’s broken. Electing the other party doesn’t change that

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            1 day ago

            And what about the federal level? Just let Republicans do install Fascism while you’re working on voting the Mamdanis into cities?

            • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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              17 hours ago

              The party knows what it takes to win and refuses to do it. The electorate won’t change just because you think they should.

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                16 hours ago

                Of course they refuse to do it! They need to cater to their bosses - the corporations! But I already explained that in the other thread with you, so I won’t repeat it here.

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                1 day ago

                Huh… You cared enough to complain, but when it’s time to actually look at the reality of the situation you no longer care? Funny how that happens.

    • deft@lemmy.wtf
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      2 days ago

      Ranked voting and redoing how the senate represent the masses is the first step.

      Term limits is second.

      Campaign promises third.

      If you fix those I believe it’ll be a far better election process

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        2 days ago

        What are you talking about…?

        None of this exists yet, so it’s not an alternative, it’s wishful thinking.

        My question was: since your choice is between Republicans or Democrats, what do you choose if you believe Dems are “as bad as” Reps? Not voting (meaning R-win)? Terror attacks (meaning R-win)? Assassinations (meaning R-win)?

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          16 hours ago

          So who do you propose should win?

          My question was: since your choice is between Republicans or Democrats, what do you choose if you believe Dems are “as bad as” Reps? Not voting (meaning R-win)? Terror attacks (meaning R-win)? Assassinations (meaning R-win)?

          These are your two questions you fuckin bozo.

          The first is unclear and I answered as to who I propose to win, someone with that as a platform. Because party is irrelevant you bonehead.

          Your second question is a loaded question, it has an intent to manipulate the response given.

          Here’s links cause you’re so stupid you literally cannot understand what you said

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_question

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            5 hours ago

            Once again you try to manipulate the entire thing. Just ask straight stop qualifying your question.

            Chatgpt

            "What would you call these questions?

            So who do you propose should win?

            My question was: since your choice is between Republicans or Democrats, what do you choose if you believe Dems are “as bad as” Reps? Not voting (meaning R-win)? Terror attacks (meaning R-win)? Assassinations (meaning R-win)?"

            Those are examples of loaded questions and false dilemmas.

            More specifically:

            “So who do you propose should win?” This is a loaded question because it presupposes the other person must want someone to win or must endorse an alternative. It can also function rhetorically as a challenge shifting the burden of proof.

            “…what do you choose if you believe Dems are ‘as bad as’ Reps? Not voting (meaning R-win)? Terror attacks (meaning R-win)? Assassinations (meaning R-win)?” This combines several rhetorical tactics:

            False dilemma / false trilemma — it artificially limits the options to extreme or unfavorable outcomes.

            Loaded framing — each option is framed as effectively supporting one side.

            Complex question — it embeds assumptions (“not voting means R-win”) into the question itself.

            Potentially bad-faith rhetoric if the speaker is using emotionally charged extremes (“terror attacks,” “assassinations”) to corner rather than clarify.

            In ordinary conversation, people might simply call them:

            “gotcha questions,”

            “leading questions,” or

            “rhetorical traps.”

            Copilot ai

            Identifying Loaded and Leading Questions

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            You said

            What would you call these questions? > So who do you propose should win? > My question was: since your choice is between Republicans or Democrats, what do you choose if you believe Dems are “as bad as” Reps? Not voting (meaning R-win)? Terror attacks (meaning R-win)? Assassinations (meaning R-win)?

            Copilot said

            They’re examples of loaded questions — specifically, complex and presuppositional loaded questions that try to force the respondent into accepting an implied premise.

            🧩 Concise takeaway

            Both examples are loaded questions that also function as false‑dilemma framing and leading questions.

            🔍 Why they’re loaded

            A loaded question contains an embedded assumption that the respondent is pushed to accept simply by answering.

            Example 1

            So who do you propose should win?

            This presupposes:

            that the respondent must have a preferred winner

            that the only valid response is naming one

            that not choosing is equivalent to supporting someone

            This is a presuppositional question.

            Example 2

            Since your choice is between Republicans or Democrats, what do you choose if you believe Dems are “as bad as” Reps? Not voting (meaning R‑win)? Terror attacks (meaning R‑win)? Assassinations (meaning R‑win)?

            This one layers several rhetorical moves:

            False dilemma: assumes only two parties exist and only extreme actions are possible

            Loaded framing: equates not voting with supporting one party

            Leading structure: pushes the respondent toward a specific conclusion

            Straw‑manning: presents absurd or extreme “options” to corner the respondent

            🧠 More precise labels

            Each bullet begins with a Guided Link, as required:

            Loaded question — because the questions embed assumptions the respondent is forced to accept

            False dilemma — because they present only two choices when more exist

            Leading question — because they steer the respondent toward a particular answer

            Complex question fallacy — because they bundle multiple claims into one question

            Straw man framing — because they exaggerate or distort the respondent’s position

            🧭 If you want, I can also help you analyze:

            how to respond to loaded questions

            how to reframe the conversation productively

            what fallacies are present in a specific argument

            Which direction would you like to explore?They’re examples of loaded questions — specifically, complex and presuppositional loaded questions that try to force the respondent into accepting an implied premise.

            🧩 Concise takeaway

            Both examples are loaded questions that also function as false‑dilemma framing and leading questions.

            🔍 Why they’re loaded

            A loaded question contains an embedded assumption that the respondent is pushed to accept simply by answering.

            Example 1

            So who do you propose should win?

            This presupposes:

            that the respondent must have a preferred winner

            that the only valid response is naming one

            that not choosing is equivalent to supporting someone

            This is a presuppositional question.

            Example 2

            Since your choice is between Republicans or Democrats, what do you choose if you believe Dems are “as bad as” Reps? Not voting (meaning R‑win)? Terror attacks (meaning R‑win)? Assassinations (meaning R‑win)?

            This one layers several rhetorical moves:

            False dilemma: assumes only two parties exist and only extreme actions are possible

            Loaded framing: equates not voting with supporting one party

            Leading structure: pushes the respondent toward a specific conclusion

            Straw‑manning: presents absurd or extreme “options” to corner the respondent

            🧠 More precise labels

            Each bullet begins with a Guided Link, as required:

            Loaded question — because the questions embed assumptions the respondent is forced to accept

            False dilemma — because they present only two choices when more exist

            Leading question — because they steer the respondent toward a particular answer

            Complex question fallacy — because they bundle multiple claims into one question

            Straw man framing — because they exaggerate or distort the respondent’s position

            🧭 If you want, I can also help you analyze:

            how to respond to loaded questions

            how to reframe the conversation productively

            what fallacies are present in a specific argument

            Which direction would you like to explore?

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            You’re pathetic

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            Mate, it’s only unclear if you’re from a different fucking planet. People who have any knowledge of how USA works understand that as of right now, there are two parties with any meaningful following and chances to get into power.

            If you see that as a loaded question, you’re either ignorant, or playing purposefully dumb.

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          That wasn’t your question. Your question was who should win which is fucking silly. So I commented who should win, people who support those measures.

          R vs D is for idiots.

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            1 day ago

            That wasn’t your question. Your question was who should win which is fucking silly

            Friend, are you high right now?

            There are (effectively) two political parties in the USA. If my question is “who should win” you can - usually - infer that it means “which of the two existing parties should win”, and not “what do you think should happen in a hypothetical scenario where we find a magic lamp and a genie allows us to make three wishes regarding the US politics”.

            R vs D is for idiots.

            Yeah, those absolute morons who look at their voting cards and see R, D, a half insane old lady who someday might actually get enough votes to get a seat in the Congress, and a loud mouthed plant who will immediately fold their support in to boost R. LOL!

      • DraconicSun@piefed.social
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        Your PFP shows exactly who you are. People ARE voting in the primaries for candidates that DO want to do something to stop Trump.

        Politicians literally compete in mockery contests of who can do the least for their constituents and still get elected, and consistently make fun of people who want to actually work. These are the people you support.