• FosterMolasses@leminal.space
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    Isn’t that the entire point? lol

    Imagine this conversation in 18th century France.

    Peasant: Should we do a revolt?

    Other peasant: Are you kidding? I’m down to my last loaf of bread over here, no way!

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      Americans love making excuses because working class solidarity is pretty much impossible for them to even imagine. It’s a settler colonial state to it’s very roots.

      It’s the same reason you won’t see socialist leanings in Israel. At best it’ll be fascism pretending to be socialism. Remember ACP?

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    Only 10% of the US is in a union. Who’s going to lead it?

    The biggest of those unions I’d guess would be AFL-CIO, which I suppose did a okay job leading the Minnesota strike

    Roughly one in four Minnesota voters either participated in the January 23 day of shutdown and protest against ICE, or have a loved one who did…Of those participants, 38% percent stayed off the job, either because they did not go to work, or because their employer closed for the day of action… 45% of voters ​“generally support the call for no work, no school, no shopping as a form of protest.” https://inthesetimes.com/article/labor-general-strike-minnesotans-ice-protest-trump-cbp

    Keep in mind those numbers are voters in minnesota, not super great for a bunch of “progressive” people.

    Even the national strike on the 30th wasn’t terrible, but neither had any economic effect. There just isn’t enough organization, especially in key industries. People aren’t educated on unions, even in communist circles a ton of us are running around without a clue what good union organizing looks like.

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    The main obstacle is the average American being brainwashed into thinking they are living the best life possible on the planet and that they too can be a millionaire if only they work 60+ hour weeks while sick.

    Essentially same situation as North Korea, just less extreme (at least in some aspects).

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      American sees something American happening Americanly in America: “What are we, a bunch of ASIANS?!?!???”

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      This right here. The problems of an inherently individualist society. Or another way of putting it…

      Fuck you, you got yours lol

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      The internet caused us to forgo our tight communities in exchange for being acquaintances with millions of people.

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          I’d say the internet is also a well defining feature of the neoliberal era, certainly not the sole blame for the destruction of communities but definitely a tool (probably unintentionally) in the belt.

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    Lack of worker solidarity. We’re too atomized and stressed to support each other through a GS. Hopefully that is beginning to change. I just hope its not too late.

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      Lack of worker solidarity

      In theory, the problem of “two paychecks” is solved (at least in part) by working people seizing certain critical means of production for the purposes of mutual aid. So, grocers strike not by closing the front doors but by shutting down the cash registers and handing out food for free. Landlord admins strike by refusing to collect rents. Teachers strike not by refusing to teach but by refusing to grade. Etc.

      And if everyone knows this arrangement will be in effect, they can act together as a bargaining unit to threaten the control of the landlord class.

      But if they aren’t in close communication, because the public forms of media are censored and strictly controlled, then individuals can’t express solidarity prior to the strike. And if they aren’t in alignment, then you end up with the same “haves” and “have-nots” reproduced across the striking cohort, creating contradictions that landlords can exploit. And if they can’t repeat this experiment of communication, trust building, strike, reap concessions, then they can’t build momentum of numbers or expand the demands.

      Hopefully that is beginning to change

      I haven’t seen much to suggest it has. Perhaps the soul is willing, but the body public remains weak and emaciated. We still don’t have avenues of communication independent of the capitalist class. We haven’t built trust between industrial sectors. There’s little we can point to that’s been successful, much less reproducible.

      I just hope its not too late.

      It’s never “too late”. All that changes is the players and the stakes at play.

      But whatever comes next, you’d be foolish to believe you’ll see both the beginning of it and the end. You’ll be lucky to know what you’re in the middle of.

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    nearly a century of coordinated, targeted anti-union operations by corporations and the federal government will do that.

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      Don’t forget that unions and strikes are unamerikkkan commie inventions that takes away our freedom.

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    Keep the serfs destutute so they can’t organize against the rich, disgustingly lavish aristocracy is a tale as old as time. We’re literally seeing ruling philosophies Medieval kings used and people say this is the best system.

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      The other half of it is conditioning a society to be so dependent on convenience and little luxuries (yes, even poor people in US have luxuries compared to other parts of the world) that they technically could strike, but doing so would be so below their standard of living that it would not be sustainable.

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    2? More like half a paycheck. Most people can’t even afford to call in sick to work.