• brygphilomena@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      2 days ago

      Dinging noises for seatbelts, for instance. I always wear mine. But I don’t think cars should annoy you if passengers don’t. Or if I put something in my backseat.

      I genuinely just want a basic car. No frills. No nav, no infotainment, just a basic radio with Bluetooth. I don’t want lane assist, or for the car to have radar when parking telling me how close I am to the drive thru window.

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        I absolutely think they should. Seatbelts are legally required to be worn in almost every western country. It isn’t, and shouldn’t be up to you if you wear it or not. And whilst a lot of people do it, something heavy enough to trigger the seatbelt sensors should absolutely NOT be unsecured in your passenger seat, because it absolutely IS going to turn into a lethal projectile if you crash. Heavy items need to go in the boot, tucked in the foot space, or be belted in.

        A crash without seatbelt is going to lead to far worse injuries, which will put a bigger strain on emergency services, hospital infrastructure, you’re more likely to require organ or blood donations for injuries that could have been trivially avoidable, blood an organ which are already in short supply, and then can’t be used on someone who actually COULDN’T have avoided their injuries, and the accident can be far, far, far more traumatising and mentally devastating for others involved if you go flying 10 m through your windscreen and your mangled body wraps around a tree.

        If you’re willing to accept all that just because you don’t like a bleeding seatbelt, frankly you deserve more than to be dinged at.

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          1 day ago

          Oh great nanny, I’d be so dead and dangerous without you. Thank you for reminding us all how much we depend on you to save us from our own stupidity.

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        2 days ago

        So you think it’s smarter to wear a seatbelt, you wear yours but are somehow annoyed that it might ding at someone else for something you yourself think is unsafe and wouldn’t do? Let’s ignore the fact it’s law to wear it in almost every state let alone city. I for one don’t want to have someone turn meat torpedo and kill themselves let alone someone else.

        The backseat warning is so kids don’t get left in the back as easily and neglectful parents have an extra step to ignore which plays against them in court. Are you somehow for some reason for children playing pizza oven because their parents neglected them?

        I’m just curious, are you also against it being illegal for fridge doors to be produced with a latch that only operates from outside the fridge?

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          So you think it’s smarter to wear a seatbelt, you wear yours but are somehow annoyed that it might ding at someone else for something you yourself think is unsafe and wouldn’t do?

          Yes. Or for my backpack thats in the backseat and sitting just right to trigger the sensor.

          The backseat warning is so kids don’t get left in the back as easily and neglectful parents have an extra step to ignore which plays against them in court. Are you somehow for some reason for children playing pizza oven because their parents neglected them?

          Don’t misconstrue my words to say I’m for roasting kids. But I am against the constant alerts without any means to turn them off.

          I’m just curious, are you also against it being illegal for fridge doors to be produced with a latch that only operates from outside the fridge?

          That’s a ridiculous false equivalency. The things I’m against are annoyances, not trapping people in cars.

          Cars make noises for fucking everything now. I’m not against rear view cameras on the surface. But mandating things like that also mean mandating a screen in the car, usually the infotainment system. And I prefer cars without screens.

          Any single thing, I’m not particularly against. But it’s been a cumulative effect where there are too many things where I can’t make a decision on how an object I bought and own behaves.

          It’s shit like not letting me, as a passenger, use half the damn infotainment because the vehicle is in motion.

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            I work on cars professionally. I know of no American market vehicle with a seat reminder that does not have an option to turn it off.

            https://www.chevrolet.com/support/vehicle/security/rear-seat-reminder

            https://www.ford.com/support/how-tos/more-vehicle-topics/seats-and-seatbelts/how-do-i-enable-or-disable-the-rear-occupant-alert-system/

            Not at all they are safety features that are mildly annoying that the end user can disable if they’re certain the reward outweighs the risk.

            All of those things you’re complaining about are usually able to be disabled. Hit me with your car make, model and year and I can probably send you the exact page in the owners manual that tells you how to disable them. The only one you can’t is the one required by federal.

            Again not playing movies is so drivers don’t use it, the good example is Tesla having to disable games because people were using them while driving. People are dumb, sometimes you have to work around abject stupidity.

            What it seems you’re against is actually looking into disabling the things you are annoyed with. They’re usually like 5 button presses on the DIC.

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            Seatbelt sensors, automatic brakes and back up cameras are not annoyances dude. They LITERALLY fucking save lives.

            Reverse roll overs are on of the most common types fatal car-pedestrian accidents involving children, and they can be entirely avoided by having rear cameras, and or/lidar with auto braking.

            Driving a car is incredibly fucking dangerous. In fact, for the average person, driving a car is likely one of the most dangerous and risky single actions they are ever going to take in their lives. And it’s concerning that you seem to think it’s like riding a bike, and the safety features are overkill.