New polling conducted by Somos Votantes and the Global Strategy Group between August 26 and September 4 shows that Trump’s net approval rating among Latino voters has dropped from -11 points in February to -23 points in September.
His favorability rating has seen a similar drop, from -12 points in February to -20 points in September.
I can’t tell if you’re being serious or not…
“The lack of compassion and hypocrisy among the blacks came back to bite their own community in the ass”
“The lack of compassion and hypocrisy in the LGBTQ+ community came back to bite their own community in the ass”
See the problem now?
It’s not automatically racist just to discuss significant problems in a particular racial community in a direct fashion of course… but just dismissing Latino support for Trump as a problem of “it’s because they are bigoted hypocrites QED” is a bunch of racist crap.
If LGBT+ people voted as a large block for Trump because he only said vile things about transgenders, and transgenders represent a minority of the LGBT+ community, and then Trump decided to send all the LGBT+ people to “mental quarantine camps,” I would say something very similar about lack of compassion and ignorance biting them in the ass. However, that didn’t happen, did it?
… and then you filled in your theory for what the “because” was that caused the Latino community to vote for him.
If your “because” were completely accurate, I’d agree with you. But it’s not. And since it’s not, and because you’re implying that every single religious Latino as a bloc has that hateful attitude and using that as your jumping off point, it’s racist.
Anything else I can help you with?
I shouldn’t have to write three paragraphs about my idea to indicate that there may be exceptions to this trend among this block of voters; generally people don’t list every single exception that exist when describing trends. I am sure there were many Latino homemakers who were tired of inflation when buying grocceries and very religious and voted only on the inflation issue and all sort of other Latinos voting for various reason, but the trend still remains true. I was never implying Latinos are a monolith.
You’ve helped me with nothing. Go draw a Venn Diagram.
https://prri.org/spotlight/hispanic-americans-evolving-support-for-lgbtq-rights/
The issue is not that there is some crazy 10% outlier of Hispanics who are not LGBTQ-bigoted, and I’m blaming you for not including them. The issue is that Hispanics are not bigoted as a majority-position bloc in the same way that you’re asserting that they are (to such an extent that it overrode every single other consideration and is obviously why they voted the way they did in the election, which you seemed to take as axiomatic and obviously why they voted for Trump.)
I am helping you, I think. You’re not open to accepting new information or having the flaws in your thinking pointed out, you perceive it as something else and a reason to argue with me and claim you’re just right and I’m being incorrect at you, but I’m doing it anyway.
Religious Latinos, not Latinos, just the religious ones. Neither of us have information because it’s epistemologically impossible to tease out what really motivated voters, especially since we can’t rely on self-reporting of why people vote how they do. I genuinely believe that if trans and LGBT people did not exist, and the Catholic Church was in favor of Biden, probably 80-90 percent of Latinos would have voted Biden. I can’t know for sure, but it’s my believe, and it’s not based out of racism.
100% correct yes. And yet, you have a belief in your mind that makes you convinced that:
80-90 percent? So 7% of black people voted for McCain instead of Obama, but you think only a few percent more Latinos than that might potentially have voted for Trump, if it wasn’t for those pesky transgenders and if the Catholic church had come out for him?
But your views of Latino thinking are definitely not racist lol. I mean I think I have made my point at this point, we’re just reiterating at each other at this point.
So saying a group who voted for a bigot are bigoted is bigoted?
It wouldn’t be racist if you had said they were bigoted (Although I do think it would be wrong, I think the issue is more awareness and education than it is just innate bigotry. They obviously didn’t fully know what Trump was about, by definition, or they wouldn’t have voted for him.)
Since you said the whole grouping is hypocritical and lacks compassion, that’s the racist part. IDK how you can’t see that, but it seems like you’re just determined not to see it for whatever reason.
If you a vote for a bigoted asshole who campaigned on getting rid of trans and gay rights but suddenly feel screwed when he comes after you, you are by definition a hypocrite and lack compassion
Oh! So you weren’t talking about the whole religious Hispanic community. You were talking about the subset of it who saw through Trump’s performative embrace of the gay community and attempts to campaign on the exact opposite of what you said, were deeply aware of his actual actions on LGBTQ+ issues despite the fact that they’re not part of that community directly and none of their media ever talked about it, managed to ignore all the propaganda telling them that he valued family and economic issues which were much more directly important to them directly, and decided to vote for him knowing full well that he was going to go after a bunch of people they didn’t really have contact with even though nothing they ever did come into contact with ever reminded them of that reality. And specifically of course excluding from that grouping anyone who voted for him for some other reason, like that their families were struggling with groceries and their media was assuring them that he would fix it.
Yeah, fuck those guys. I thought somehow that instead of singling them out very specifically for their very specific actions and motives, you were painting the whole religious Hispanic community. I apologize for not reading more deeply into what you actually meant.