• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Fuck off Joe, you’re slightly better than Hillary because you did eventually listen to reason.

    But he should have said years ago he wasn’t going to run in 2024.

    Hell, even if he just said it 6 months ago we could have had a real primary

    It’s good he finally did the right thing, but he came damn close to not. He’s not a hero because he stopped doing the wrong thing at the last possible second. A week ago he wouldn’t stop rambling about “Lord God” was the only one that could make him drop

    Dude is off the deep already, and has been for a while.

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      4 months ago

      nah. i won’t call him a “hero” but this is the best way it could have happened, rather than republicans having YEARS to foment hatred and spin conspiracy theories and make everyone waste time debunking lie after lie about harris.

      and nobody’s going to switch from D to R because it’s harris instead of biden. you can be fairly certain, however, that there WILL be people voting who weren’t going to vote at all when it was biden instead of harris

      should he be applauded? yes. is he a hero? no. should he have announced it years ago? no fucking way.

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        4 months ago

        but this is the best way it could have happened

        The best way was this happening a year ago so we could have a primary…

        But you don’t think Dem voters should have had a say?

        I’m a lot more democratic than you apparently…

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          4 months ago

          LOL good job parroting fox news’s desperate “bIdEn ChEaTeD tHe DeMs!!!” talking points. i’ll bet you’re doing it for free too.

          news flash-- biden isn’t running, and you could have voted for anyone you wanted in the primary. so this entire “debate” about biden’s shoulda/woulda/coulda, while entertaining to obliterate people in, is getting the tankie position exactly nowhere

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            4 months ago

            What?

            So if Faux News says we didn’t get a real primary…

            We have to lie and say we did?

            That’s Trumper logic man

            Have fun with that.

            Edit:

            and you could have voted for anyone you wanted in the primary.

            In my state (and others) Biden was the only Dem on the primary ballot…

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              LOL why weren’t you and the apparently millions of other like minded yous mobilizing to either get someone else on the ballot, or writing in someone else?

              or were you just accepting what you were told to, like you’re accusing everyone else of doing now?

              again–what do you think you’re going to accomplish with all of these sad desperate dEmScHeAtEd attacks? making people not vote now?

              have fun with that

              btw: voter registrations for 18-34 year olds surged AFTER harris became the nominee. that means people are registering specifically to vote for harris. does that grind your gears? LOL

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                again–what do you think you’re going to accomplish

                Did you not see what happened to the Republican party when they stopped holding their politicians accountable?

                Why are you trying to make the democratic party just as shitty?

                btw: voter registrations for 18-34 year olds surged AFTER harris became the nominee. that means people are registering specifically to vote for harris. does that grind your gears? LOL

                No…

                It’s a good thing, I’ve spent over a year saying Biden and Hillary are the only two who could.lose to trump…

                I’m glad Biden finally listened to people who knew what he was talking about about. But I’m still mad that he waited so long we didn’t get a primary.

                You seem to be operating under football logic where people pick a team and only say good things about them.

                Which again, is what made the Republican party into what it is today.

                So I ask again, why do you want both major parties to act like Republicans?

                If youre not gonna answer, there’s no point in me wasting time with you.

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      4 months ago

      He didn’t think he’d be pressured out 6 months ago. He’s obeying popular opinion that shifted after the debate.

      Someone here compared it to convincing an elderly parent to stop driving. They’re not heroes either, it just sucks for everyone that nature works this way.

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        He did like a tenth of the press conferences as the last two presidents…

        And people were pointing out his age related issues 4 years ago.

        The only reason it took till the first debate for a critical mass to demand he drop out, was that was the first people had seen him speak for longer than 5 minutes. Ive been calling for him to do more public appearances/interviews this whole term, lots of us did. But we were called conspiracy nuts for saying an 80 year old was as capable as the average 80 year old.

        The people around him day to day knew how bad it was and knew he’d be forced to step down if the public knew. So they fucking hid him. Just like Republicans did with Reagan.

        Like it or not, that’s what happened.

        I hope you at least learned that it’s not just ok to criticize your “team” it’s fundamentally necessary.

        If people hadn’t, wed still be running Joe and trump would still be likely to win.