Ahead of Chair Vote, Progressives Say DNC 'Failing Disastrously' to Learn From Loss to Trump | Common Dreams
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  • ubergeek@lemmy.todayEnglish
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    4 hours ago

    What if I told you, that elections are a way for the ruling class to justify the oppression of the working class?

    • FlowVoid@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      4 hours ago

      Then I would conclude that you are not interested in winning elections.

      And therefore you shouldn’t give advice to people who do want to win elections.

      • ubergeek@lemmy.todayEnglish
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        4 hours ago

        Hey man, I want our Empire to crumble, not prolong it’s life.

        While crumbling, I want to limit damage as best as possible.

        The Dems are the ones who care about winning elections, and holding power. The only way to do that is to listen to the working class.

        Trump lied about his intent to fix the problems, but he did, minimally, agree they existed.

        • FlowVoid@lemmy.worldEnglish
          12·
          4 hours ago

          I don’t believe leftists actually know “the only way to win elections and hold power”, considering they have accomplished neither.

          • ubergeek@lemmy.todayEnglish
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            3 hours ago

            Probably because neither is our goal? I mean, leftists want no state, no classes, and no money.

            • FlowVoid@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              2 hours ago

              Democrats definitely don’t want a stateless society. So they definitely should not listen to leftists.

              • ubergeek@lemmy.todayEnglish
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                1 hour ago

                In which case, I cannot argue with. Which means the Democrats most certainly do not support the interests of the working class, and just want power over others. Which means, none of us should be voting for them, or the GOP.

                • FlowVoid@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                  1 hour ago

                  Plenty of people in the working class don’t want a stateless society, either.

                  • ubergeek@lemmy.todayEnglish
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                    1 hour ago

                    Plenty of people in the working class want a fascist dictator too… That’s why its our job to work on raising class consciousness still.

                    And yes, the majoritarianism argument is to be had, as well.