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“Progressive” Shitlibs when they allow bigots on their platform and Queer people dont like them
(Im pretty sure eveyone other than world users hate world)
.world user here. I also hate .world.
.world has now moved onto banning people for calling out transphobia. It was bad when they banned users for calling out the Democrats’ involvement with the genocide of Palestinians, but now they ban users for being “aggressive” with transphobes.
That’s concerning… I don’t follow instance drama, but if that’s even half true I’ll switch. Have a source that I can read?
You can check my mod log, there’s an example.
Yea… I am glad I have .world on my block list.
To be fair, sh.itjust.works’ admin thinks Russia and China are pushing “gender ideology” to radicalize western youths against the US, and it’s home to NCD and MWoG, 2 of the most right-wing communities on Lemmy.
Saying that the russians are the ones pushing “gender ideology” on the west is an absolutely senile opinion to hold. For years every russian news channel has been hollering that it’s The West™ poisoning russian society with “LGBT propaganda”. Did that guy really try to pull a “no u” on the entirety of russian state media?
lol this is insane
What the actual fuck did I just read?
“I’m not a transphobe, but more people realising they’re trans is a psyop by h o s t i l e g o v e r n m e n t s and trans people should sit quietly in the corner if they don’t want to get hatecrimed.”
🤡🤡🤡
I’m not “X” but, (insert the most vile thing people in group X usually say)
This is a stereotype that predates the internet.
Just the standard affair for users of that comm, sadly.
What are NCD and MWoG?
Non-credible defense, basically 4chan but for the millitary, and overwhelmingly loves western millitaries and NATO.
MeanwhileOnGrad is the other, it’s an anti-communist instance maintained by a “former” gamergater that hasn’t changed their views too much considering they complain about “wokeness” and “forcing equity.” That’s actually where the transphobic admin comments came from.
The two comms share a lot of users, and form some of the most active right-wing userbases on Lemmy. Both openly maintain that they aren’t right wing, but there’s blatant open transphobia and complaining about DEI from prominent users that gets highly upvoted there, so more than anything that’s telling about what the actual stances are.
I follow NCD mainly for the memes about Russian military, I have never paid enough attention to see any gender discussion or similar…
NCD is Non Credible Defense, a military meme community. Not sure what MWoG is.
I personally don’t do a lot of hating
I personally dont hate individual people, I hate concepts and organizations (like Neoliberalism and bigotry) :3
Is bigotry an organization???
Jk, the phrasing worked funny…
Yes we call it “the legal system”
You know it’s gotten pretty bad when even the anarchist flag usernames are meming about how ridiculous the anti tankie attitude is.
I’ve been more people complaining about Tankies than anything actually based on what Tankies support. But I’ve seen plenty of shitlibs openly supporting for biogtry on .world
Your instance probably filters them from you.
Nah, I get hexbear users popping up. Unsure of lemmygrad.
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True left unity is uniting against .world
Imo anarchists and people who even lean that way have a big interest in making sure tankie doesn’t get used as an insult for anyone to the left of liberals, real tankies grouped and killed anarchists, letting everyone be called tankies and not just real tankies means Anarchists are less safe.
Soviet Union General Secretary Joseph Stalin broke the Non-Intervention Agreement and League of Nations embargo by providing material assistance to the Republican forces, becoming their only source of major weapons.
From August 1936 onward, over one ship per day arrived at Spain’s Mediterranean ports with Russian aid: munitions, rifles, machine guns, hand grenades, artillery, trucks, Soviet agents, technicians, instructors, and propagandists.
True left unity is uniting against .world
I haven’t been able to take the word “tankie” seriously in most cases since I asked that to someone on Reddit and they linked a meme praising anarchist Catalonia
Yeah, it’s kind of lost all meaning. I’ve seen Marxists call Liberals tankies, and I’ve seen Liberals calls Marxists tankies. I’ve seen right wingers call Leftists tankies, and I’ve seen Leftists call Centerists tankies. I know where the word came from, and who the first tankies were but I rarely know what a person’s intent is with that word anymore. Maybe it’s just young people slang now and I’m just too old to get it.
Because I used to be with it, but then they changed what it was. Now what I’m with isn’t it anymore and what’s it seems weird and scary. And it’ll happen to you!
Well that’s a strawman if I’ve ever seen one
Aside from conservatives, does anyone think the world is controlled by marxists, tankie or otherwise?
The closest is the PRC, though all Marxists understand that the US is the current hegemon.
The meme is about lemmy.world and American liberals are center-right conservatives so…
American liberals are centre-left progressives* FTFY
I guess it depends on the country. Unfortunately here in Brasil it’s rather common to find people that believes in “cultural Marxism” and how our education system is Marxist or leftist or some shit. Which is total BS used to smear and drive people away from higher education.
Basically my thoughts are, if you give slight pushback to American talking points you get called a tankie. It’s kind of annoying.
THIS is why people have a problem with “tankies.”
Budapest, 1956.
Whatever you do, don’t look up the numbers of Soviet officials lynched before the tanks were sent in, or who the counter-revolutionaries set free from prison to help with the lynching and rioting (spoiler: literal Nazis).
Hey dont forget who funded and equipped the counter-revolutionaires (The CIA)
My family comes from Iran and Iraq
THIS is why I have a problem with “liberals”
Baghdad, 2003
So in your mind this is the reason that there was an Imperial war in Iraq and was worth going in with no plan and collapsing the government and leaving it as an open warzone for over 20 years where over a million people either been killed, wounded or permanently displaced? Who funded Saddam Hussein in that war since 1982? Where did those chemical weapons come from? In what world is the US have a right to be the global police anyway? I think the worst possible way to make up for the Halabja massacre is to completely destroy the country and its economy for multiple generations, but that’s typical of a police mentality. Not actually dealing with a problem just killing more and more people.
This is such a bullshit troll post from an ignorant person. Your fucking country funded BOTH SIDES of this war, one side directly, the other clandestinely by trafficking drugs and weapons in Central America in a major scandal. You posted another outcome of American imperialism.
You are a deeply unserious clown of a person to just google atrocities of Saddam Hussein as if that makes up for what the Americans did. Iraqis should have had a chance to deal with him themselves, not have their entire country destroyed. Halabja isn’t even why the Americans invaded in 1990, they lied about Iraqis killing babies in hospitals to cover for their Kuwaiti oil interests. Halabja isn’t why Americans invaded in 2003, they lied about evidence of WMD. You don’t know what you are talking about, you are an ignorant Yank.
I’ve been doing antiwar protests since Iraq- absolutely massive and totally ignored by the government. It was a bit radicalizing.
I’ve always considered myself an anarchist. These days I get called a tankie just for being opposed to wars and vocally opposing my own governments complicity in genocide. Somehow the meaning of tankie got flipped to mean the people opposed to sending in the tanks. Most ml’s I’ve known are the first people to shit on Khrushchev anyways.
Yea, neoliberal ideology is fucked all around. I prefer progressives over self declared libs.
Neoliberals are right wingers
Yes. And there’s no actual left in the US. And it’s dwindling everywhere else too. Scary times.
Two things can’t be bad at the same time, I guess.
Ah yes, the famous liberal, George Bush.
Holy shit guys he almost gets it.
You’re right there dude. Micrometers from figuring it out.
When you draw the line of Liberal v Conservative so far to the right it includes George Bush, it ceases to lose all meaning.
Liberals were so proud to have Dick Cheney’s endorsement last election. And they were big mad that GWB didn’t endorse.
Liberalism is the ideological component of Capitalism. Conservativism is a type of Liberalism.
You do know that the wars spanned multiple administrations including democratic ones right? Also all American politicians of “both” parties are liberals.
Bill Clinton launched “Operation Desert Fox” to prepare and position the US imperial army ahead of “Operation Iraqi Freedom”
That is all accurate and I don’t disagree with you. But the picture was of an invasion under Bush, not Clinton, so I responded as such.
The problem that I take is l:
Also all American politicians of “both” parties are liberals.
I’m wondering what your definition of Liberal is. Up until like 2020, it was Liberal v Conservative and when I look it up in the dictionary I get “Relating to or denoting a political and social philosophy that promotes individual rights, civil liberties, democracy, and free enterprise.”
But Liberal on Lemmy appears to be anything to the right of a theoretical Star Trek post scarcity utopia.
The internationally recognized measure of left-right. Not the uniquely American one that’s skewed all to fuck.
There is no left at all in American politics. The closest we’ve gotten is Bernie Sanders. He’s a moderate everywhere but here.
The war in Iraq has nothing to do with the parties of the US and was an imperial war that would have occurred no matter who was the “president” of the US
Both parties in the US share an ideological commitment to capitalism and function as a uniparty to manage the empire. From the
CIAWikipediahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism
Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, the right to private property and equality before the law.[1][2] Liberals espouse various and often mutually warring views depending on their understanding of these principles but generally support private property, market economies, individual rights (including civil rights and human rights), liberal democracy, secularism, rule of law, economic and political freedom, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, and freedom of religion.[3] Liberalism is frequently cited as the dominant ideology of modern history.[4][5]: 11
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoliberalism
This has some good aspects and is an improvement from the monarchies that came before it but he clear problems that Marx brought into question in the 19th century. As capitalists have progressed, liberalism in the US particularly has become neoliberalism which is not something communists want and is a precursor to fascism. Liberals fight socialists and communists to maintain their private property and capitalism.
If you are talking in the context as an American of that ridiculous farce of a government “liberals” means the Democratic party, to an anarchist outsider, they are all liberals. I do not believe in or support private property or market economies and think they come in direct opposition to economic and political freedom.
Noe liberal and neo con differences are how you “kiss babies”/comment on social and cultural issues, while electioneering to make the war mongering big bucks from power.
Beautiful ✨🥲
Were you aware that Russia agreed to USSR’s/CIS liberation? All of it was peaceful.
in order to combat leftist propaganda lemmy.flatearth is now forcing disinformation onto its communities. The red scare runs deep.
Seriously?
That’s not really a thing neoliberals say…
They definitely complain about the tankies being a big part of the culture of Lemmy, and housing some of the biggest communities, but the statement in the comic isn’t even remotely a thing neolibs or the .world demographic says
So this comic kinda just feels like a strange, confusing straw man…
The only times I hear of tankies is from how annoying they are in online forums, their only power being in their subreddits and lemmy instances. The only references to Marxists are from idiots repeating MAGA talking points.
Nothing appears to exist if you never open your eyes
Real eyes realize real lies
Really bro? That’s what we’re doing now?
L
Yea this is what happens when you tolerate hexbear
Wow Toler ate your face
They aren’t even from hexbear
I know. Cancer spreads.
Leftism is cancer now?
Reaction images are leftism now?
Blazeit
This is a self explanatory meme, get some fucking perspective. Leftists have been fully destroyed around the world yet every meta thread on lemmy.world are people in a panic about “tankies” which maybe count in the dozens world wide. Chill out. The stress from being so self righteous might give you cancer.
I don’t care about tankies. I care about the fucking image reactions that make using this website intolerable
Lol, ok…
How dare I not take a meme seriously. This is very serious business! We should have a debate
Political memes are not just leisure, they do have the potential to reinforce people’s views.
So, if you do want to share a political perspective, better not be too “unserious” about it.
The meme is really self explanatory though. I’m not going to think for you. If you get it then its funny, if you don’t it isn’t my job to hold your hand. Feel free to use the downvote button that doesn’t even federate to my instance.
You don’t have to have a debate, but using that image as a reaction makes you look like a child. Just respond thoughtfully, or don’t respond at all.
Who told you not to trust anything the US said?
This is meme is for people who are incapable of forming their own thoughts but have been told they are, aka, tools of propaganda.
Who told you not to trust anything the US said?
Living in the US is sufficient cause to distrust its government.
Being educated is a sufficient cause to distrust all governments.
Idk I like it when the proletariat is able to dictate the course of society
Also your reply contradicts your statement that I first replied to.
Not at all.
Someone told you not to trust either. Presumable not the same person, presumable American government told you not to trust China but that begs then question who told you not to trust the American government.
Further the meme implies one should trust the Chinese government presumably because an untrustworthy source told you not to which is a mentally stunted view.
Not being trapped under the direct influence of the Chinese government, there are clearly many of reasons not to trust that government either.
There is no reason to trust any government. A basic understanding of history should make it clear that this is true of any government that has ever existed.
who told you not to trust the American government.
You don’t have to be told not to trust it. Even deluded Chuds who guzzle US corporate propaganda all day don’t trust it.
Further the meme implies one should trust the Chinese government presumably because an untrustworthy source told you not to which is a mentally stunted view.
No, the meme implies that your distrust isn’t justified, not that trust is justified.
Not being trapped under the direct influence of the Chinese government, there are clearly many of reasons not to trust that government either.
Okay, have you talked to any recent(as in the last 10 years) immigrants from China who don’t make way over the median US income? Or hell, earlier immigrants mostly only complain about the liberalization period under Deng.
There is no reason to trust any government. A basic understanding of history should make it clear that this is true of any government that has ever existed
This doesn’t really acknowledge the class character of the state.
Why would immigrants be trusted source?
People have personal biases, good and bad. People have confirmation bias. It sounds like the immigrants biases have confirmed your biases.
Even if I were to ignore all of that, your experience is an anecdotal data point for me so my opinion that no government should be trust remains.
Given that I’m not attempting to replicate or advocate for any specific form of government this seems prudent.
For anyone still reading and is really bored, my personal belief is that the only path forward is an society that is governed by immutable mathematical agreements.
It’s hard to describe what I have in mind in a comment as there are many interacting pieces that together create a system that requires no government, no leaders, no fake money and no ambiguity.
I can say the same for China
Except you literally can’t.
The government that actively tries to censor elements of news from their citizens. Yeah buddy, sure thing.
I said
“Living in the US is sufficient cause to distrust its government.”
You replied:
“I can say the same for China”
I replied:
“Except you literally can’t.” Meaning you don’t live in China so you can’t make the claim with similar level of authority
And then you made the comment I replied to, and I don’t see at all how it is connected to the line of conversation.
I guess I can’t because i don’t live in China, but you understand the point of my argument yet choose to play semantics. It’s fine
I have a brain, you know.
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I shidded
A tankie seems to be supporting Russia, with Russians support, defending itself from NATO expansion. Many communities view US empire objective of diminishing Russia to be a supreme right, and the “virtue of democracy” that all demonism must be true.
Look agan
No one knows the original comic 😤
Look agan
I did! It’s a Siberian river apparently. What about it? 🤓
Right, never start complaining about someone until they rule the world.
I swear all the winners are messaging me from sh.itsjust.fascism
It’s an instance that doesn’t require an interview and mostly has an absent admin so .world admins can’t pressure them to ban accounts ‘for the good if the fediverse’. Of course some sh.it heels use it but I plays an important roll.
I really disagree that any role sh.itjust.works plays is positive, though. It hosts MWoG and NCD, some of the most right-wing communities on the Fediverse, and moreover the admin thinks China and Russia are pushing “gender politics” to radicalize western youths against the US. The fact that there’s no interview is by design, it serves as a foothold for right-wingers and fascists who would be banned elsewhere.
That use of “transgender ideology” without a hint of irony
Yep, and that it’s highly upvoted tells you a lot about that community in general.
Would you recognize irony if you sat on it?
