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  • No, I meant the immediate people involved in the revolution, those often don’t fair well & don’t last long (eg people in a party, not necessarily main headline names). Iirc Russia changed almost everyone in charge in the 20s & 30s to a more stable structure afterwards.

    In such system changes the country often goes through another (lesser) system revolution a few years after the first one (when the focus is to just keep shit running) & it’s better that people involved change at that point too.

    Like what happened with Robespierre (~Jacobins), the early two or three years under Lenin, and I think Slovakia or Poland when they transitionv away from communism they forbid running for office to anyone that held any official power under the previous regime (the same people that formally facilitated the end of communism since it as that kind of revolution).

    What you showed is what happened after after that, so the point of revolution. And I couldn’t agree more with that. My point was not in that. It’s that you need admins and regular politicians to run any system smoothly, and the few 1000s of people revolutioning arent usually the best at tirelessly debating a monetary policy or what road laws to use.

    (Oh, the “plundering” part - yes, perhaps the wrong word to use, I meant that fairly literally, irl taking things, not doing it in an organised legal manner which is how “the 1% gets to exist” – and you can se that clearly in the Russia chart too, 90s capitalism was the framework for that, so “paper” not raiding rich houses)




  • Beat or being able to flourish once the Goth Galadriel is gone?

    Because historically the revolutionary forces (the one toppling the bourgeoisie) are extremely shitty governors (just continuing mass murdering & plundering which kinda makes sense if you think how & what they have been through).

    In very few historical instances of regime changes all the previous actors as well as anyone involved in the revolution were prohibited in forming the new structure. This helps a lot to actually change the system.

    You wouldn’t want to move from a czar to a dictator, thats long term the same bullshit, only makes things better in short term.

    Same with any oligarchy, if it exists and has power than it matters little what kind of regime it technically is.

    Edit: I might have chosen poor words but I didn’t mean that the ideologies behind revolutions make for poor government, just literally the force of a few 100 or 1000 people directly involved in the forceful part of the revolution. The fighty-fighty people.




  • Well, one would have to first think of an elaborate Voyagery backstory on how they get to be adversaries.

    Prob like a mind-erasing holo-deck mishap where they think one is the daughter and the other one the mom, they live on a farming planet where a war breaks out & the daughters boytoy is on the opposing side so now they will inevitably face each other in battle.

    Then the Borg queen boards Voyager, doesn’t find the simulation as amusing as the crew (which watch it as a reality show non-stop & perform none of their regular duties), assimilates the ship entirely but gets poisoned by all the residual coffee particles on board and dies.

    The sim on holodeck continues uninterrupted.

    Seven of Nine starts drinking coffee.













  • Le French resisted a bit of colonialism (from wiki/Scientology_status_by_country#France):

    Since 1995, Scientology has been classified as a secte (cult) by boards of inquiry commissioned by the National Assembly of France. It was first designated a sect in a 1995 report, and then in a 1999 report it was classified as an “absolute” sect and recommended its dissolution.

    In 2000, after ‘appeals for religious tolerance’ from USA President Clinton and his congress, president of France Jacques Chirac told Clinton to stay out of France’s business, noting “shocking White House support for Scientologists”. Alain Vivien, chairman of the Ministerial Mission to Combat the Influence of Cults, claimed that sects—primarily headed and funded by Scientology—had been infiltrating the United Nations and other European human rights organizations. In 2001, France passed the About–Picard law, intended to strengthen their ability to prevent and repress sects that undermine human rights and fundamental freedoms, and those which engage in mental manipulation. The law would allow courts “to order the immediate dissolution of any movement regarded as a cult whose members are found guilty of such existing offences as fraud, abuse of confidence, the illegal practice of medicine, wrongful advertising and sexual abuse.”

    A 2009 case resulted in a fraud conviction against two Church of Scientology organizations and five individuals, and recommended dissolution, and a 2012 appeal upheld the convictions including 600,000EUR in fines. Though the prosecution had requested the dissolution of the Scientology Celebrity Centre and its bookstore, a dissolution penalty wasn’t possible due to a brief retraction of the dissolution law prior to the 2009 verdict and the prohibition against enforcing it retroactively.