Also, being able to manipulate the operation of the vehicle remotely or it announcing its own location at all times doesn’t exactly scream ‘security’ (or privacy) to me.
My car is only recent enough to have Bluetooth. I’m really dreading the day I have to get something newer. I love being able to just turn a knob to adjust the temperature or volume
I have a 2025 Toyota and it has buttons and knobs for both volume and climate control. They do have an app but it requires a subscription fee to use any of those features and I don’t have any need for it. At most I’ll use remote start but I can do that with my key fob.
If there’s an app that can access that, it means there is a connection between your car and their servers, at least, and an ID tied to you that was set up when you purchased the car.
Most definitely. I was just referring to the car still having physical buttons and knobs. Not everyone has switched to touchscreen control for everything, which is something I cannot stand as well.
Agreed. I mean, it wouldn’t be so bad if they used hardware that could keep up with what they were trying to do instead of going as cheap as possible like I assume they do and the program needs time to process every touch.
But even if they were always snappy, volume and climate control should be adjustable with just a glance. It wouldn’t surprise me if auto makers think like Microsoft and “optimise” where things are each update, probably driven by someone who has strong opinions on how it should be set up but isn’t the one using it because someone else drives for them.
There’s a way to disable connected services by talking to someone with the SOS button. It obviously doesn’t cut off cell connection because it can be reactivated remotely but short of installing a bypass harness to cut power to the modem it’s the next best way to hopefully minimize telematics. They can share the telematics of your vehicle during an accident.
Jeg kørte for nylig i en Qashqai fra Esbjerg til København, og den bippede ad mig hele vejen. Jeg var lige ved at køre den galt, bare for at få den til at holde op.
Jeg ville være villig til at betale mere for at få mindre hvis det gjorde det muligt at få en bil i stedet for et moderat mobilt infotainment center eller en to ton smartphone monteret på hjul. Men… Den eneste måde at opnå det på lige nu er at sælge huset for at købe en Koenigsegg eller sådan noget, og så meget er jeg ikke villig til at betale ekstra. Så vil jeg sgu hellere taget toget eller en bus.
…Og givet hvor godt DSB gør deres job disse dage siger det en del om hvor vi er henne.
It likely does have a 4g connection just one you’re not also allowed to piggyback on since you didnt get the higher trim or add-on package which changes a single bit in the firmware from a 0 to 1 allowing you to use it too.
As a rule of thumb, if your car model is approved for sale in the EU after 2017, it most likely has tracking in it. And post-2021, it almost definitely has it.
Sure, it’s possible that they have a different model specifically for the non-EU market, but they still usually have the same modules installed… your data is valuable, especially in countries where they don’t need to care as much about privacy laws.
Also, being able to manipulate the operation of the vehicle remotely or it announcing its own location at all times doesn’t exactly scream ‘security’ (or privacy) to me.
Oh boy are you gonna be disappointed with every vehicle manufactured in the last decade
I am :(
My car is only recent enough to have Bluetooth. I’m really dreading the day I have to get something newer. I love being able to just turn a knob to adjust the temperature or volume
I have a 2025 Toyota and it has buttons and knobs for both volume and climate control. They do have an app but it requires a subscription fee to use any of those features and I don’t have any need for it. At most I’ll use remote start but I can do that with my key fob.
If there’s an app that can access that, it means there is a connection between your car and their servers, at least, and an ID tied to you that was set up when you purchased the car.
Most definitely. I was just referring to the car still having physical buttons and knobs. Not everyone has switched to touchscreen control for everything, which is something I cannot stand as well.
Agreed. I mean, it wouldn’t be so bad if they used hardware that could keep up with what they were trying to do instead of going as cheap as possible like I assume they do and the program needs time to process every touch.
But even if they were always snappy, volume and climate control should be adjustable with just a glance. It wouldn’t surprise me if auto makers think like Microsoft and “optimise” where things are each update, probably driven by someone who has strong opinions on how it should be set up but isn’t the one using it because someone else drives for them.
There’s a way to disable connected services by talking to someone with the SOS button. It obviously doesn’t cut off cell connection because it can be reactivated remotely but short of installing a bypass harness to cut power to the modem it’s the next best way to hopefully minimize telematics. They can share the telematics of your vehicle during an accident.
Literally why I keep driving only old cars.
Yes, to a degree mere words cannot accurately convey.
De nye biler og deres konstante bippen gør mig vanvittig.
Hvad? Du bryder dig ikke om tvungen kommunikation med dit køretøj som om det var en spastisk version af R2D2 med munddiarre og dyb opmærksomhedstrang?
Det er fuldt forståeligt.
Jeg kørte for nylig i en Qashqai fra Esbjerg til København, og den bippede ad mig hele vejen. Jeg var lige ved at køre den galt, bare for at få den til at holde op.
Jeg ville være villig til at betale mere for at få mindre hvis det gjorde det muligt at få en bil i stedet for et moderat mobilt infotainment center eller en to ton smartphone monteret på hjul. Men… Den eneste måde at opnå det på lige nu er at sælge huset for at købe en Koenigsegg eller sådan noget, og så meget er jeg ikke villig til at betale ekstra. Så vil jeg sgu hellere taget toget eller en bus.
…Og givet hvor godt DSB gør deres job disse dage siger det en del om hvor vi er henne.
Our 2yo Crosstrek has no starlink. No LTE. No wifi. Is it leaking our location via tachyons?
Oh, it still has a cellular module, you just don’t get to benefit from it.
https://www.torquenews.com/1084/subaru-now-involved-vehicle-data-collection-lawsuit-investigation
It likely does have a 4g connection just one you’re not also allowed to piggyback on since you didnt get the higher trim or add-on package which changes a single bit in the firmware from a 0 to 1 allowing you to use it too.
As a rule of thumb, if your car model is approved for sale in the EU after 2017, it most likely has tracking in it. And post-2021, it almost definitely has it.
Sure, it’s possible that they have a different model specifically for the non-EU market, but they still usually have the same modules installed… your data is valuable, especially in countries where they don’t need to care as much about privacy laws.
Amazon sidewalk?