• gearheart@lemm.ee
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    Right: Let’s cut off our Dicks.

    Left: Let’s not cut off our Dicks.

    Center: Guys, your going to have to compromise, let’s just do some dick cutting.

    Right: I guess I can live with that for now.

    Left: No.

    Center: See, this is why no one likes the left, you guys are the real extremists, smh

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      I don’t see tankies/red-browns are leftists. Ultimately they overwhelmingly support authoritarian dictatorships, and that just doesn’t feel very lefty for me

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        Well left/right isn’t authoritarian/libertarian, it’s collectivist economics/individualist economics.

        Authoritarians with collectivist ideals are authoritarian leftists, i.e tankies,

        Libertarians with collectivist ideals are libertarian leftists i.e anarchocommunists,

        Authoritarians with individualist ideals are authoritarian right, i.e monarchism,

        Libertarians with individualist ideals are libertarian right, i.e anarchocapitalism.

        Of course there are more examples of ideologies for each quadrant with varying levels of “auth-lib” or “left-right,” but just to give you some idea of the differences. There’s also auth-lib centers, like National Socialists on the auth side and agorists or anarchoprimativists on the lib side.

        Of course judge all of the above groups to your own accord, but it isn’t as simple as “left means libertarian” unless you think anarchocapitalism is a leftist ideal, which it by definition isn’t.

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      Plenty of centrist liberals support Israel’s “war against Hamas”. US president Joe Biden and the Democratic party for example.

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        that has nothing to do with the ideology of centrism itself and would be ridiculous to even pretend so.

        it has to do with the complexity of the situation, and more specifically for everyone supporting Israel, having to do with maintaining country relations moreso than the edit: humanist ideals unfortunately.