The first time buyer was previously renting though, so the renter could go there. Total number of people and houses hasn’t changed in this simplified example.
Right but a lot of renters cannot or do not want to buy property. Thus, rental units leaving the market creates a supply demand imbalance in the rent market, driving up prices (and driving down property prices, for the inverse reason)
Plenty of renters do want to buy and house prices coming down would allow that for some of them. If no one buys it and the landlord wants to sell, all they can do is lower the price until someone does buy it.
Right. We are in agreement that this should cause some reduction in property prices.
But not all renters are able to buy property. Here’s an extreme example - lets say 99.9% of landlords are forced to sell their rental homes. There are now just 100 units left in all of London.
There are 10000 students who need a temporary place to stay, and another 10000 people that have bad credit and cant get a mortgage. What will happen to rental prices?
Then who will buy those properties? If we have 100 houses for 100 groups of people, mixed renting and owning. Then 20 landlords sell. Who are they selling to if no one can afford it?
Yes, again, I agree with you that the landlords will have to reduce their prices because there will be a temporary housing glut. Although, they might just let them sit unused off the market until prices recover.
But the houses will get sold. There’s a housing shortage everywhere.
Yes, in your scenario, assuming that all the houses must be sold and nobody is allowed to buy a second home (which would happen in the real world as the prices drop) and nobody becomes homeless (which would also happen), all those houses would go to previous renters. The remaining renters are those who are in the most financially weak situation - even as property prices drop and rental prices go up they still couldn’t afford to buy before the market stabilized. In this market there is now going to be pressure driving down the prices of homes and driving up the price of rentals.
Empty houses contribute more tax in some parts of the country where councils have been given permission to raise taxes on empty properties. IIRC it is up to 4x the normal rate.
Similar things could easily be rolled out where its a problem. Especially given that we already have working examples in the UK. Though its more about holiday homes, the same applies.
The first time buyer was previously renting though, so the renter could go there. Total number of people and houses hasn’t changed in this simplified example.
Right but a lot of renters cannot or do not want to buy property. Thus, rental units leaving the market creates a supply demand imbalance in the rent market, driving up prices (and driving down property prices, for the inverse reason)
Plenty of renters do want to buy and house prices coming down would allow that for some of them. If no one buys it and the landlord wants to sell, all they can do is lower the price until someone does buy it.
Right. We are in agreement that this should cause some reduction in property prices.
But not all renters are able to buy property. Here’s an extreme example - lets say 99.9% of landlords are forced to sell their rental homes. There are now just 100 units left in all of London.
There are 10000 students who need a temporary place to stay, and another 10000 people that have bad credit and cant get a mortgage. What will happen to rental prices?
Then who will buy those properties? If we have 100 houses for 100 groups of people, mixed renting and owning. Then 20 landlords sell. Who are they selling to if no one can afford it?
They have to reduce the price until someone can.
Yes, again, I agree with you that the landlords will have to reduce their prices because there will be a temporary housing glut. Although, they might just let them sit unused off the market until prices recover.
But the houses will get sold. There’s a housing shortage everywhere.
Yes, in your scenario, assuming that all the houses must be sold and nobody is allowed to buy a second home (which would happen in the real world as the prices drop) and nobody becomes homeless (which would also happen), all those houses would go to previous renters. The remaining renters are those who are in the most financially weak situation - even as property prices drop and rental prices go up they still couldn’t afford to buy before the market stabilized. In this market there is now going to be pressure driving down the prices of homes and driving up the price of rentals.
Empty houses contribute more tax in some parts of the country where councils have been given permission to raise taxes on empty properties. IIRC it is up to 4x the normal rate.
Similar things could easily be rolled out where its a problem. Especially given that we already have working examples in the UK. Though its more about holiday homes, the same applies.