• AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@piefed.social
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    1 day ago

    How does a trans person endanger a republican? Or a gay? Or an autistic? Or an inmigrant? How? Is there a trans cabal trying to make every kid transition? Is there a gay secret society trying to make everyone gay so we go extinct? No, no, it has to be the autistic illuminati, right?

    Meanwhile, republican nazis have the ice gestapo, rfk jr is talking about sending autistic people to “farms” and trying to make trans as miserable as possible. But hey, bOtH SidEs!!!1!11!!!1

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      I support trans rights and gay rights as human rights, and the right for everyone to be left alone to do what they like as long as it doesnt harm others, and that you are the sovereign of your own body-- no one gets to tell you how to be or who to have consensual sex with. But its are a bad marketing method to counter republican philosophy, and to get people to rally around it as a key point-- we should really stick with human rights as our attack strategy on that one.

      Authoritarians choose gay and trans rights as their preferred battleground to attack human rights and push authoritarian outcomes-- because it works. We should Insist on universal human rights and the rights to be left alone to your own choices. No one really disagrees with that. Thats how we win gay and trans rights, and onto civil rights and privacy too. We draw a line at insisting everyone stay out of the business of others unless invited, and when people charge into your bedroom with their ideas, they should be treated as home invaders. Authoritarians love that castle doctrine stuff, why dont we piggyback on that to get them out of our lives?

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        We should Insist on universal human rights and the rights to be left alone to your own choices.

        Right, so long as those choices aren’t causing needless harm.

        No one really disagrees with that.

        Uh, yes they do, and they’re actively killing us, hence the need for defense.

        For example, I wish Kirk had stopped spreading hate while he was alive. But he didn’t. Now that he is dead, he can’t do that anymore. This is a good thing that potentially saved a lot of lives.

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      The rhetoric to justify violence is the same either way, which is the point.

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        9 hours ago

        Are you like, literally brain damaged? Who allowed you on the internet? Can you put your caretaker on so I can let them know you’re sneaking around their rules?

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        Just because the rhetoric might have similarities in some very narrow hypothetical does not make these things equivalent.

        I would recommended reading Popper’s paradox on tolerance, too…

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          Yeah, Popper’s pretty obscure - I probably haven’t ever heard of him, and his arguments definitely aren’t misquoted and misunderstood on Lemmy on a daily basis.

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        But it’s not even remotely the same. You can’t make something true be just repeating it you simpleton.

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        You’ve been shown multiple times that it is not actually the same tho. You are just refusing to listen.