• musubibreakfast@lemmy.world
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      4 days ago

      Maybe we can find a way to have both? Science, research, health care and technical innovation don’t need to go hand in hand with capitalism.

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      4 days ago

      True…but…

      A lot of medicines are fully natural things that we’ve learned how to cultivate or synthesize with remarkable accuracy. Look at Aspirin/Salicylic acid (sourced from certain bark, iirc). Or Penicillin.

      Insulin is another great example, something we’ve learned how to extract from pigs.

      And now tons of medicines are biologic. We are finding all sorts of stuff in nature that we can borrow and make it grow inside of domesticated plants or animals.

      When you get right down to it, everything we make came from the earth. Hell the phone I’m typing this on is really just a chunk of smart sand.

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      Yes, losing half your children before they became teens used to be normal.

      In addition, there were a lot of trees, fruit and water. But, the majority of the fruit wasn’t something humans could eat. It was simply there so that the plant could reproduce.

      It took millennia of cultivation to get nice, juicy fruit like we have today. Even just a hundred years ago, a sweet orange was a rare treat.

      For most of history, just getting enough calories every day was a challenge. The whole reason why debt, feudalism, war, etc. exist is that life was hard and sometimes people were willing to kill or die for the chance at something better.