Hanlon’s and Occam’s razors agree on this one, it’s much simpler (and likely more accurate) to blame this on the incompetence of the shooter. Headshots are for videogames, center mass is a much easier target.
At risk to himself? Even for a trained precision shooter, guaranteeing a miss is still difficult. Gust of wind picks up at just the right time and the bullet goes into Trump.
Then again, it’s Trump, and he might be dumb enough to go for it. Provided he can find a shooter who’s also dumb enough. Which he can; there’s probably plenty of guys that dumb at any given local range.
The shooter was taken out seconds later and I’m guessing Trump either had an earpiece or his bodyguards relayed the fact. That explains why he suddenly stood and posed despite his security detail trying to keep him down.
(He’s too dumb to think about a potential second shooter.)
Judging by the famous photo, the Secret Service was shielding him with their bodies and trying to drag him away from the scene. That would give them control over his lateral movement but wouldn’t prevent him from standing. The agent shielding him doesn’t reach above his shoulders, and she’d have a hard time stopping a “265 lb.” man from standing while only gripping his waist.
Meh. Occam’s razor applies here, I think. The head is highly vascular, and even small injuries can produce a visually stunning amount of blood. I don’t think it was a fake or a conspiracy; sometimes shit just happens.
The cartilage of the ear takes a long time to heal, yet HitlerPig was walking around fully healed within 2 weeks. He also showed no sign of being injured at all, when a glancing shot like that should have mangled his ear at least a little bit. Yet, it looks perfectly fine now, not even the slightest nick or scar.
Occam’s Razor means something slightly different when it comes to HitlerPig. In his case, the most nefarious, dishonest, corrupt story is probably the right one. He was never shot, the whole thing was a hoax.
Depends, because I don’t think his cartilage was actually damaged. A glancing shot wouldn’t have necessarily done any structural damage at all if the angle was shallow enough. I don’t think Donald is competent enough to keep a houseplant alive, I have grave doubts that his team would have been able to effectively stage an assassination attempt without bungling it and actually getting Donald killed or something else real bad. I mean, if you need to believe it was a hoax, don’t let me get in the way of a good time, I guess, but sometimes shit really does just happen. Source: 15 years on the ambulance.
The rounds used were high-velocity rifle, not handgun rounds. Were it a handgun round, it could be believable. The greater amount of kinetic velocity leads to much more devastating wounds, even with grazes. He may have been grazed by debris or indirectly by a fragment from a bullet that hit something else, but, that’s not the claim.
Source: I’ve spent a significant amount of my life learning about firearms and I’ve been next to someone who was hit by a .45 ACP that ricocheted at a shooting range after hitting a rock about 15-20m away. He was hit solidly in the meaty bit of the shoulder at an almost straight-on, vertical angle. Not a graze. The round did not penetrate, fortunately. The wound had minor, superficial lacerations or tears radiating about 1.5x the round diameter and a bruise the size of an orange. Bleeding was easily stopped with a single gauze pad.
Why does that matter? Well, the wound experienced was similar, if not more significant and visible, considering it’s a less vascular and bleed-y than an ear. A common .45 ACP FMJ round has about 1/4 the energy of a 5.56x45mm NATO round when it leaves the barrel. The reduction of velocity from the ricochet was extreme, likely below 200ft/s (60m/s), roughly 1/4 of initial velocity, but it still had enough energy to create a similar degree of wounding.
Kinetic energy (KE) is proportional to mass times the square of velocity, meaning that every time velocity doubles, KE quadruples. So, a .45 ACP round traveling at ~1/4 of its velocity posesses ~1/16 of its initial KE (supposing it didn’t lose any mass, which it did). That makes it around 1/64th of the KE of the 5.56mm round. The likelihood of a 5.56mm round making little enough contact to transfer less than 1/64th of its energy into a ear, without the pressure wave impacting the surrounding tissue at all is not technically impossible but it is about on the scale of the chances of Ghandi not pulling out nukes in the original Civ.
Add to that the suppression of any medical evidence and it’s a pretty clear picture.
I worked in EMS for fifteen years. The amount of damage a bullet does is really a question of how much energy is transferred. In order to transfer energy into tissue, obviously the bullet needs to make contact. Minimal contact means minimal energy transfer; at some point the bullet’s just going to shear off the tissue it brushes against and that’s that. It’s not like a video game where a glancing shot is going to send him spinning through the air like a top and rip his ear off. Especially because the ear can kinda wiggle freely, it’s a bit closer to just nicking a paper target.
It’s not like a video game where a glancing shot is going to send him spinning through the air like a top
Indeed. The only way that something like that is happening is the nervous system doing it (or tissue ejecting like JFK).
and rip his ear off.
Again, handgun, no, high-velocity rifle, pretty likely. The two act very differently when they contact tissue. An instantaneous transfer of even a fraction of 1.8kJ of energy to tissue is pretty devastating.
It is possible that he was hit but, the minute amount of contact needed to transfer enough energy from round as small as 5.56mm to cause a “cut” without any damage to the surrounding tissue is exceedingly unlikely. The fact that the medical records were not just withheld from the public but even investigators, after which he paraded around bragging about it really makes “he was hit by a bullet” the non-credible scenario.
I honestly don’t think the gun was ever aimed at Trump. His “wound” was gone basically overnight.
People behind him were killed. The guy just missed.
Like Trump wouldn’t be on board with killing his supporters for a photo op.
But he would never be on board with live ammunition being fired around him, even for a plot. All he cares about is his own orange sack of bones
Hanlon’s and Occam’s razors agree on this one, it’s much simpler (and likely more accurate) to blame this on the incompetence of the shooter. Headshots are for videogames, center mass is a much easier target.
At risk to himself? Even for a trained precision shooter, guaranteeing a miss is still difficult. Gust of wind picks up at just the right time and the bullet goes into Trump.
Then again, it’s Trump, and he might be dumb enough to go for it. Provided he can find a shooter who’s also dumb enough. Which he can; there’s probably plenty of guys that dumb at any given local range.
He stood back up for his photo op. If you’re right and it was a real attempt, he wouldn’t have done that.
This is a guy who hid in a bunker when people were protesting.
The shooter was taken out seconds later and I’m guessing Trump either had an earpiece or his bodyguards relayed the fact. That explains why he suddenly stood and posed despite his security detail trying to keep him down.
(He’s too dumb to think about a potential second shooter.)
No it doesn’t. The secret service would never allow that, and there’s no way Trump could overpower them.
Judging by the famous photo, the Secret Service was shielding him with their bodies and trying to drag him away from the scene. That would give them control over his lateral movement but wouldn’t prevent him from standing. The agent shielding him doesn’t reach above his shoulders, and she’d have a hard time stopping a “265 lb.” man from standing while only gripping his waist.
Meh. Occam’s razor applies here, I think. The head is highly vascular, and even small injuries can produce a visually stunning amount of blood. I don’t think it was a fake or a conspiracy; sometimes shit just happens.
Geriatrics take forever to heal, though, especially when their lifestyle is as atrocious as Trump’s.
The cartilage of the ear takes a long time to heal, yet HitlerPig was walking around fully healed within 2 weeks. He also showed no sign of being injured at all, when a glancing shot like that should have mangled his ear at least a little bit. Yet, it looks perfectly fine now, not even the slightest nick or scar.
Occam’s Razor means something slightly different when it comes to HitlerPig. In his case, the most nefarious, dishonest, corrupt story is probably the right one. He was never shot, the whole thing was a hoax.
Depends, because I don’t think his cartilage was actually damaged. A glancing shot wouldn’t have necessarily done any structural damage at all if the angle was shallow enough. I don’t think Donald is competent enough to keep a houseplant alive, I have grave doubts that his team would have been able to effectively stage an assassination attempt without bungling it and actually getting Donald killed or something else real bad. I mean, if you need to believe it was a hoax, don’t let me get in the way of a good time, I guess, but sometimes shit really does just happen. Source: 15 years on the ambulance.
The rounds used were high-velocity rifle, not handgun rounds. Were it a handgun round, it could be believable. The greater amount of kinetic velocity leads to much more devastating wounds, even with grazes. He may have been grazed by debris or indirectly by a fragment from a bullet that hit something else, but, that’s not the claim.
Source: I’ve spent a significant amount of my life learning about firearms and I’ve been next to someone who was hit by a .45 ACP that ricocheted at a shooting range after hitting a rock about 15-20m away. He was hit solidly in the meaty bit of the shoulder at an almost straight-on, vertical angle. Not a graze. The round did not penetrate, fortunately. The wound had minor, superficial lacerations or tears radiating about 1.5x the round diameter and a bruise the size of an orange. Bleeding was easily stopped with a single gauze pad.
Why does that matter? Well, the wound experienced was similar, if not more significant and visible, considering it’s a less vascular and bleed-y than an ear. A common .45 ACP FMJ round has about 1/4 the energy of a 5.56x45mm NATO round when it leaves the barrel. The reduction of velocity from the ricochet was extreme, likely below 200ft/s (60m/s), roughly 1/4 of initial velocity, but it still had enough energy to create a similar degree of wounding.
Kinetic energy (KE) is proportional to mass times the square of velocity, meaning that every time velocity doubles, KE quadruples. So, a .45 ACP round traveling at ~1/4 of its velocity posesses ~1/16 of its initial KE (supposing it didn’t lose any mass, which it did). That makes it around 1/64th of the KE of the 5.56mm round. The likelihood of a 5.56mm round making little enough contact to transfer less than 1/64th of its energy into a ear, without the pressure wave impacting the surrounding tissue at all is not technically impossible but it is about on the scale of the chances of Ghandi not pulling out nukes in the original Civ.
Add to that the suppression of any medical evidence and it’s a pretty clear picture.
I worked in EMS for fifteen years. The amount of damage a bullet does is really a question of how much energy is transferred. In order to transfer energy into tissue, obviously the bullet needs to make contact. Minimal contact means minimal energy transfer; at some point the bullet’s just going to shear off the tissue it brushes against and that’s that. It’s not like a video game where a glancing shot is going to send him spinning through the air like a top and rip his ear off. Especially because the ear can kinda wiggle freely, it’s a bit closer to just nicking a paper target.
Indeed. The only way that something like that is happening is the nervous system doing it (or tissue ejecting like JFK).
Again, handgun, no, high-velocity rifle, pretty likely. The two act very differently when they contact tissue. An instantaneous transfer of even a fraction of 1.8kJ of energy to tissue is pretty devastating.
It is possible that he was hit but, the minute amount of contact needed to transfer enough energy from round as small as 5.56mm to cause a “cut” without any damage to the surrounding tissue is exceedingly unlikely. The fact that the medical records were not just withheld from the public but even investigators, after which he paraded around bragging about it really makes “he was hit by a bullet” the non-credible scenario.
It’s why wrestlers use real razors. Y’know, some of Trump’s friends?