• randon31415@lemmy.world
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    6 个月前

    In 2016, people thought that Trump was the problem. That if Trump left, we could have civility restored to the electoral process. Defeating Trump won’t solve the problem because he isn’t it - it is the electorate. The voters need to SEE what will happen when this or that occur.

    Deport all the immigrants, see the damage that brings, then bring them back with legal protections this time.

    Cancel all the science, see how far behind we get, then bring it back with all the funding to make the next moonshot.

    Get rid of all fogien aid, watch as our global power dimishes, the vote to bring it back with a clear and true purpose other than empire building.

    The people don’t know WHY these things are important, and are unwilling to listen or learn. Thus, the only teacher is to experience. But to quote Trump: “There will be some pain” when doing it.

    • PagingDoctorLove@lemmy.world
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      I don’t disagree with you and I would love it if people had to experience the consequences of their poor decisions and learn hard lessons that they’ve been evading for years. The problem is that millions of innocents are and will be caught in the crosshairs. This is a matter of life or death for many people who did not vote for him and it is unconscionable to allow all those people to die just so a bunch of loud racist hillbillies with lead poisoning can learn a lesson.

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        Fair, I just see no other way of swaying minds without consequences. We tried 4 years of shielding people from Trump’s baser urges, and we ended with thousands of people dying each day to COVID. Then 4 year later THEY VOTED HIM BACK IN.

      • sleepmode@lemmy.world
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        6 个月前

        They don’t even know what DEI means until oh hey, they’re out on disability for months+ for surgery in their physically demanding job and need help because their arm or whatever doesn’t work and/or they’ll be out for surgery for months and/or SSDI rejects their claim. The willful ignorance and just plain ignorance is really sad.

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        There are already millions caught in the crosshairs. Its not a choice between doing nothing and saving lives, and doing something and losing them. We are losing them both ways but by doing nothing people evade social responsibility.

    • MY_ANUS_IS_BLEEDING@lemm.ee
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      100%. Even after he leaves office, is anyone confident that the country will collectively go “well that was embarrassing, anyway, back to normality now!”

      • SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world
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        How, at this point, could anyone assume that in 4 years Trump will just “leave the office”?

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          If voting will be fixed as Trump promised, a different puppet could be installed. This would increase the appearance of legitimacy.

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      Dead on. This is a snowballing shit storm building since Reagan. Probably earlier. Trump is only a foothold, a useful idiot. He’s popular with the Boomers and knows how to work them and use the language. They even refer to him as “their boy.” Meanwhile he’s “making deals” e.g. pumping the dicks of other corpos like Xi and Putin and pretending to get them on board even when he fails with the smarter leaders while his little weasels dismantle shit in the background.

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        This is spot on.

        Just as we saw with Boomers in the UK, who happily threw their country off an economic cliff with Brexit, America’s Boomers are equally feckless and unrelenting.

        People over the age of 70 should lose the right to vote and just focus on being old and retired. It’s absurd to have people constantly voting to chop down the tree whose shade they will never live to enjoy.

    • Tehdastehdas@lemmy.world
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      The nonvoters might learn, but not the brainwashed consuming Fox News - they’ll blame the left once again.

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      Will they actually see it though is the question, or will they greedily accept the new set of lies as the world burns around them.