Yeah, I’m staying on Rednote

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    1 day ago

    Poor baby doesn’t get to (1) call for violence on an international scale (2) Commit blood libel, or (3) Be openly racist

    Typical western liberal

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      16 hours ago

      Oh hey its you again, the crazy guy that shouts the most wild insults at people

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      Well as for point 1, there is, at most, equal as much call for violence in the phrase “Free Palestine” as in “Liberate Hong Kong”, so those are actually decent comparisons of calls to action. Except really, as Hong Kong is not in open war with China, there really is no need for violence. China just has to give up its false claim to it. That’s even more true with Taiwanese Independence. That requires no violence at all. China is the source of the threatened violence in that case, and they simply need to recognize and respect Taiwan’s Independence from them.

      As for your point number 2, I assume this is in reference to Tiananmen Square? First of all, you need to look up the definition of libel. “Remember Tiananmen Square 1989” does not make any claims of fact, true or not, so there is no way that that statement itself is libel. Second, I’ll state outright that the massacre that occurred on June 4th 1989 is a fact, and you can kiss my ass if you are claiming otherwise. True statements, btw, are also not libelous.

      And as for point 3, really? I’m racist to repeat a childish meme about an authoritarian leader that his own Chinese citizens came up with? That shit started on the Chinese internet, my guy, not in the west. You have got an uphill battle if you want to claim that the Chinese people are racist against Chinese people. Dumbass.

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        6 hours ago

        You are a profoundly unserious person if you equate the 100 year lease of Hong Kong, that was signed at the point of a gun, ending for the Brit*sh and ownership reverting to the Chinese with the genocide of the Palestinians by the settler colonial state.

        You’re just being a vulgar imperialist. I didn’t read further.

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          6 hours ago

          I didn’t read further.

          Cool. I read everything you wrote. You’re reading comprehension needs work. Thanks for wasting 30 seconds of my life.

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            6 hours ago

            You’re reading comprehension

            Laughing at your mental inferiority aside, you’re a gutless fucking coward for just using that as an excuse to not engage with WHY your opinion is worth throwing in the garbage bin, which I articulated perfectly well enough to respond to if you had the will or ability.

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                6 hours ago

                Laughing at your mental inferiority aside, you’re a gutless fucking coward for just using that as an excuse to not engage with WHY your opinion is worth throwing in the garbage bin, which I articulated perfectly well enough to respond to if you had the will or ability.

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                  6 hours ago

                  No, you fabricated a sentiment that I neither expressed nor agree with. I did not “equate the lease of Hong Kong […] with the genocide of Palestine.”

                  I used, among other examples, “Liberate Hong Kong” as a thing that would likely be censored by Rednote. I was making this statement as a rebuttal to OP’s implication that Tik Tok censors things but Rednote does not. I was then accused of calling for violence by the call to liberate Hong Kong, and that supposed fact was being used to justify hypothetical censorship of that statement. I then said that that statement was AT MOST as much a call for violence as “Free Palestine” (a sentiment that I wholeheartedly support, btw), but that it really didn’t need to be a call for violence at all as there is currently no active violence in that conflict and it could be resolved diplomatically. Then YOU came and accused me saying that the situation in Hong Kong was exactly the same as the genocide in Palestine when I very explicitly said that they are not the same. You didn’t bother reading or comprehending what you read and then you got butthurt that I did respect your analysis. Have I missed anything?

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                    I did not “equate the lease of Hong Kong […] with the genocide of Palestine.”

                    You very literally did. And I’m not going to engage further as long as you’re being a dishonest piece of shit like this.

                    There’s literally no point to.

                    Sartre quote. Fucking nazi.

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        equal as much call for violence “Free Palestine” as in “Liberate Hong Kong”

        No there fucking isn’t. First of all, Hong Kong has been a part of China a great many centuries before the US had started their first genocide (and boy did they start early) and was wrested from them by colonial violence, like Palestine was wrested by the colonizing Europeans. Violence of the oppressed isn’t equal to the violence of the oppressor as much as libs like to clutch their pearls about it, the most unspeakable violence is what’s happening BY NOT FREEING PALESTINE.

        “Free Hong Kong” coming from fucking westerners is as disgusting as “Free Panama” was and “Free Texas” way back when. It means “free to be looted by US” and fuck everyone who still does the legwork for imperialists.

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          13 hours ago

          I’m genuinely trying, but I can’t follow your meaning. I dont think we disagree as much as you think we do. Though, I’m not sure because I cant quite parse what you are arguing.

          What I can follow though is that you have a problem with me specifically saying “Free Hong Kong” for whatever reason. Whatever you think of the merits of the sentiment of freeing Hong Kong, or of me saying so as a westerner, is entirely beside the point I was making about censorship. It have no intention of arguing geopolitics or pretending that it is my area of expertise. It is a comparable statement to “Free Palestine” in so far as it supports the sovereignty of a smaller nation being controlled (or worse) by a larger nation. One is apparently censored by Tik Tok, the other would be censored by Rednote. I think censoring either is wrong.