I saw a post that talked about racism towards people and when I talked about it the response I got was very heated and a person even called lemmy.world a community of ‘hitlerites’
I have been around for a week or so and this is my first time seeing such explicit vulgar reaction towards another community, is this a one-off or should I block hexbear?
Why don’t you asked them yourself? !askchapo@hexbear.net
Probably a bad idea to ask about a Marxist instance on a .world community, since .world is known to be quite biased against Marxism.
I’ve frequently noted that you tend to get a very one sided answer when you ask, for instance, Mormons about Mormonism. Likewise, I wouldn’t expect a balanced and fair assessment of hexbear by asking hexbear mods and users.
The opposite is true, when you only ask people not federated with Hexbear you get equally imbalanced opinions. OP already did that, may as well ask on Hexbear as well to get the other side of the story.
Hexbear removes any questions or opinions they don’t agree with. They heavily censor the discussion and consider it a feature of their community.
Other Lemmy servers allow a diversity of thought and opinion. They allow people to question and disagree.
It’s not about sides of the story, it’s the difference between free discussion of individuals versus a standardized party line that cannot be questioned. The former tends to expose the truth, while the latter tends to obfuscate the truth.
Lemmy.world doesn’t allow any opinions from Hexbear, they defederated from them. That is more censorship, though less obvious because you don’t see the comments getting removed. Even then, comments still get removed for going against the “party line” as well, usually comments critiquing the Democrats.
What’s more correct is that Hexbear is more open and up front with its bias, while instances like Lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works try to pretend that they don’t hold bias.
That’s completely incorrect, there are hundreds of hexbear users commenting on this thread right now, using the alt accounts which they are allowed to make here. Or am I expected to believe that the 400 comments on this thread were simply normal Lemmy users who felt like defending hexbear? Give me a break.
Any hexbear account (or federated account) that expresses a disallowed opinion quickly gets banned and the comments purged, so that hexbears can maintain their echo chamber. What an absurd argument, claiming that defederation is in any way comparable to active censorship of content. You don’t even get to see the comments that get removed on hexbear because they purge them, leaving no trace. No comment removed by mod, nothing in the modlog.
Don’t fucking equate my instance to hexbear, I can see right through you, charlatan. You can run and hide from the truth all you like, but it will come for you eventually.
Do you think every user that likes Hexbear is a Hexbear user? Moreover, full defederation is the greatest act of censorship. I’m not equating sh.itjust.works to Hexbear, I generally have better experiences and run into far less bigotry on Hexbear. Your edgy monologue was funny, though, lol.
Not every single one, just the vast majority.
How so, comrade? Explain to me how defederating a violent and hateful server is more of an act of censorship than… literal, by the book censorship.
You are a hexbear user, so it’d make sense that you have a better experience within your cult than outside it. Hexbear is more bigoted than any other Lemmy server, by a wide margin.
I’d like to see some numbers to back your claims, but I don’t really think that’s possible to gather accurately.
Either way, defederation blocks your users from seeing their content. Pretty blatant censorship, at a broad scale. Now, I don’t try to take the stance that all censorship is bad, I definitely think things like bigotry and misinformation should be censored, however I think trying to play semantic games regarding censorship just serves to obscure bias. That extends to defederating from Leftist instances like Hexbear.
And yes, I do use Hexbear. I don’t hide that, I made my Lemmy.ml account a year ago and made a Hexbear alt about 7 months ago so I could browse it locally when I wanted to take a break from the rest of the fediverse, as Hexbear takes a hardline stance against bigotry and there’s not a constant fight between liberalism and leftism like there is on other instances.
I don’t really think there’s much point in continuing this conversation, however. I highly doubt we are going to come to an agreement, and you’re already personally insulting me, so I’d rather disengage.
And you don’t think marxists have a Marxist bias?
OP has the opinions of the non-Marxists already by asking here, on an instance defederated from most of the Marxists. May as well ask the Marxists what they think too.
Or at the very least @kaprap, make a similar thread in !asklemmy@lemmy.ml, it’ll give them a chance to speak for themselves.