Do you think we just support stuff because of its socialistness? Should we not support Iran against the US just because they aren’t socialist? Or Hezbollah, or Hamas? None of those are socialist, yet, I would hope you support them against Israel.
Supporting Ukraine and cheering on the destruction of Russian infrastructure kinda reminds of something like supporting the US-led liberation of Kuwait and cheering on the destruction of Iraq.
I’m fine with someone having a negative opinion of China so long as they don’t use that as a purity test and demand everyone else denounce China, calling people “fascists” or “tankies” and refusing to work with them otherwise.
There are people who think China is actively imperialist instead of a semi periphery country and is as bad as the US and Western Europe, or even that they’re worse, and that China deserves to be balkanized and beaten down. Those people are not leftists, they are Western chauvinists.
Then there are people who may have a negative opinion on China, but will defend China against imperialist extraction and aggression. Those people are leftists that don’t like China.
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The DSA is the compromise with the genocidal rapist pedophiles that exists so that nobody will do anything too drastic about the situation, so it can go on and on without change.
Decreptance ⚰️☠️: “He’s a poor old man. Stop bothering him about Bad-Thing!”
But also, I might recommend you to maybe not insult people to the extreme when defending someone from a racist remark. White people making a scene to prove that they’re not racist can be really embarrassing to everyone involved.
The difference is between genuine protectiveness and trying to prove that you’re not racist, you shouldn’t be doing the latter.
Just avoid doing stuff like this IRL, a single comment online doesn’t really matter.
There’s also the trope of Asian people being politically aligned with the country they (or their ancestors) came from and being eternally foreign.
It’s a racist shitpost. Doing this to people you think are Chinese is totally not an acceptable thing to do at all. This is like a blatantly racist meme, regardless of your position on tankies, like they even made them type with broken English. The Chinese scammer that says “fuk you.”
It also insinuates that Asian people are aligned politically with the country of their origin, which is like classic anti-Asian racism.
Liberals become like blood and soil nationalists for ethnic groups contained within the countries of their state’s enemies, but then dress it up as decolonization. You don’t want Tibetans to be free, or Tatars, Uyghurs, Kurds, or any of those ethnic groups conveniently only in Russia, or China, or Iran.
It’s obvious that you have ulterior motives.
What you are actually insinuating when you say things like that, is that the US or NATO or whatever should go in and support the separatist faction to balkanize those countries and weaken them. Like the neocolonialist playbook.
Or a more subtle variation on that where instead of saying we all should outright support insurrection/regime change in [Country opposing Western imperialism] you say that we shouldn’t support them against US/NATO aggression because they have [insert internal issue] and that makes them deserve it, or that they’re both bad so don’t support either side.
On the off chance you don’t want that, ask yourself: what can you actually do to help [issue] in [China, Russia, Iran, DPRK, etc.]? And if you live in the West, the answer is:
Almost nothing, those problems have to be solved by people over there, but you can help, by protecting them against your terrorist-ass government.
The PRC had considerable help from Tibetan serfs. I know that was true. The communists didn’t just all come from China.
No, you see, the trick you’re pulling is blaming the global South for supposed barbarism when it is the West that profits off of those horrors and maintains them via it’s monopolistic control over finance, oil, and other essential commodities required for development, and this system of extraction from poor countries into the rich countries that you consider to have superior cultures is enforced by imperialist militaries and comprador oppressive governments.
You cannot say that Arab culture is worse than Western culture when you are dependent on oil being parasitically extracted from Arab countries with nearly zero profits from it actually improving the lives of the people there. You cannot say that Indian culture is worse, when you literally benefit off of workers there living in worse conditions because that means the agricultural / chemical / industrial products produced there can be cheaper and it means you can have a higher quality of life because everyday consumer goods are cheaper.
Iran is a great example: If one country of the supposed lesser cultures stops exporting oil, then your precious Western Civilization starts shriveling up like a leech.
This is exactly what a fascist would say.
“traitor to the West” sounds exactly like something a fascist would say, but since it’s about Ukraine everyone ignores it, cheers it on, even.
Capitalism has now divided the world into places with different functions:
They are the countries whose economies are focused on raw resource extraction like mining and agriculture. These places are usually very poor as all investment coming abroad from international finance goes towards increasing the output of ore, crude oil, coffee, palm oil, etc. A good example from the beginning of Neocolonialism (Kwame Nkrumah) is of Ghana tripling its cacao production over the span of 10 years, but the actual net income from total cacao exports fell slightly. The global system of capitalism via monopoly power forces these countries to underprice their exports and forces them to overpay on imports and on the interest payments from loans they must get from the banks of rich countries like the EU or US. Africa and the Middle East, some parts of South America and Asia would be in the imperial periphery. They only consume close to the bare necessity required to maintain the workforce required for resource extraction.
There are the countries whose economies process those raw resources into consumer goods. This group has become increasingly distinct over time as factories have moved out of the US and Europe into Asia and Central and South America. Life is sometimes better here and there is more consumption usually.
And the one people are talking about and most people on here are probably from…
The countries whose economies are focused on consumption, finance, and IPs (or other forms of products only profitable because of rent). Almost all jobs fall into the categories of…
Sales and retail, transportation, finance, creating IPs such as proprietary software, technology patents, or entertainment, and the maintenance of infrastructure. That’s it, pretty much. It makes sense why nobody wants to work, almost all of them aren’t contributing anything that seems helpful minus a few exceptions.
Their biggest exports are loans, IPs (if those could even be said to be exports), and weapons.
Alienation is the worst in these countries as every aspect of life is designed to make people consume as much as possible. Alienation is far more psychologically damaging than exploitation which leads to stuff like South Korea having a higher suicide rate than Sudan. Basically all of them are experiencing an ever worsening loneliness and mental health crisis. It’s normal now that every person you know has a mood disorder.
Also leftists have a far harder time getting anything done in these countries because a lot of the working class are basically bought off and apathy is like the dominant ideology. Also, what means of production is anyone gonna seize? The Coca-Cola bottling factory? The Walmart grocery stores?
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If it does, then I’m glad some of us tried to stop it, at least.
“I can’t help Israel.” Well, that’s good.
And everyone dies.
Yeah, also consider that the person depicted in this meme isn’t fucking real!