I didn’t mention Trump, though liberals did elect Trump. Conservative liberalism is still liberalism; Americans shortened it because, well, they can’t really handle big words.

As far as the civil rights act that was a median 40 years after the rest of the world… Who cares? Congrats you eventually, after nearly all other western countries did so, adopted a half hearted version of equality that has, 60 years later, failed to make the demographics included equal. Such a big accomplishment. Almost as if you did the bare minimum, reluctantly, and didn’t fight the immediate erosion of it.

And you’re right, the liberals of the 1930s were more progressive than the liberals of the 2020s in the US… Weimar liberals didn’t think twice about providing low cost healthcare, trans gender care, or support for gay marriage and relationships. American liberals (at least the elected officials) didn’t support gay marriage until 2014.

Are you? Did you skip history class? Did you just not get taught how Hitler was appointed and why liberals felt he was the moderate choice that more closely aligned with them than the actual left wing people they were using state power to suppress?

Are you running an LLM with basically no tokens?

I addressed your appeal to history, what additional fallacy are you going to present to defend your left wing belief that Hitler is preferable to communism, an idea core to liberalism?

Liberals, the people that appointed Hitler, are not left wing.

No matter how much you liberals whine, you’re not left wing. The left starts are the abolition of capitalism, as equality and equity cannot exist under capitalism.

As far as the origin of the term… That’s not how language works. It evolves over time. The liberals haven’t been included in the left since you people appointed Hitler after instigating more than a decade of institutional violence against communists.

You’re not left wing, you’re the exclusive reason fascists have ever gained power.

If you think nonviolence is core to the left wing, you need to go ahead and find a nice subreddit to join. Liberals aren’t left wing.

Hey, this propaganda is now 3 months out of date.

What’s the new Boogeyman to excuse selling your country out to billionaires that consistently take away your rights?

Yes Mr Shapiro, everyone that thinks differently from you is a Russian or Chinese bot or troll, your viewpoint is the only one that can ever exist, you’re so smart and definitely not propagandaized.

The students that stole police weapons and started shooting?

Are black Americans oppressed in the US by being put in prison? Is it because they’re black or because they’re poor and thus more likely to need to do crime in order to survive?

If there were a solution that brought the entirety of black Americans out of poverty by locking up the most dangerous 10% of them after a jury trial and conviction until they were rehabilitated, while massively investing in majority black areas to ensure poverty is no longer a thing in those areas, would you do it?

This isn’t whataboubtism, before you fail to report me for that.

Also Hong Kong was colonized until it was returned to China, it was never independent. I’m sorry white people lost their tax haven.

And you call me propagandized… No, people in jail aren’t disappeared because they lost their right to talk to the press. No, there is not a global network of secret police arresting Chinese people. No, China is not alone in blocking travel to their country for hate speech or other bigotry.

If you believe these things, and you seriously see no problem with them, you aren’t able to speak on politics. It’d be like discussing consent with a Mormon or physics with a flat earther… I mean seriously, a global network of secret police stations in other countries? Complete control of the speech of 1,400,000,000 humans?

This is as ridiculous as the ‘Jewish new world order’ stuff a lot of you people believe

That’s fine, liberalism will be overthrown like it’s sister ideology feudalism before it.

Liberals are not left wing, the left starts at the abolition of capitalism. Without that they cannot back up any concept of equality or equity.

Biden’s nor Harris are left wing. Clinton certainly isn’t.

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Short term pain for long term freedom is needed. If people had your point of view during the American civil war, you’d be the Confederate states of the US.

Every day people are the ones enabling and holding up fascism, not the uniforms, not the leadership, just people like you and your loved ones. Without you fascists have no power. Pressuring those around you, sabotaging their work if it’s helpful to the fascists, socially isolating those that refuse to help are the effective steps to take. If you don’t take them, you’re as bad as any fash with a gun or suit.

Ok Mr Shapiro.

By no definition of fascism is China fascist. Reread your Eco.

The government is the people. A fifth of the Chinese public are cpc members. It costs nothing to join, there are no requirements besides being a citizen and not being a convicted traitor. Anyone can join and start voting and participating.

And again, no, it’s not a different system. I get that you’re angry you’ll never own your home in the US, whereas 92% of Chinese adults over 21 own their own home, but that doesn’t change reality. The ‘lease’ is that your land is under the Chinese government, not the US government or Russians government, and thus subject to the laws in China and can be revoked if you use your land in a revolution against China.

Every single country on earth has this clause. Every single one. China assigns it per deed, rather than an overarching law, because of the autonomous districts that have different leases, like Tibet or Xinjiang.

Those not working to dismantle fascism are fascists.

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