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Stochastic terrorism is a real thing though - and hate speech against a minority is one of the possible ways fascism can take root in a society.

Germany learned this the hard way how easy it is to overtake a country that was previously one of the most liberal and modern societies. That’s why hate speech against minorities and holocaust denial are forbidden and harshly punished here - and that’s probably one of the reasons why other countries in Europe had their far-right surges in recent years quite a bit earlier since russia had to be more creative about dividing the population

The ones where the people are most afraid of communism and think minimum wage is socialism?

I’m firmly convinced that 90% of the protesters are trolls that’ll vote Trump anyway and are just trying to discourage people from voting for Harris that would never vote for Trump the same way the Trump campaign did that against Clinton.

Some people are probably participating in those as useful idiots that are not realizing that their activism will only make matters worse

I think it’s very telling how often those protests are accompanied by “not voting for X” - since that’s the main agenda - not to help Palestinian people

Netanjahu is openly cheering for trump, knowing that he will have no more breaks on his plan to completely level Gaza and expand on the settler program.

Trump is the one that basically told the Palestinian people that they’ll never have Jerusalem as a capital by moving the embassy there

It’s so obvious how much this is just a bad-faith attempt to discourage people from voting for the clearly better choice if you care about Palestine…

Netanyahu is actively supporting Trump because he knows he’ll enable him to be way more aggressive inside Gaza.

People that still use this are just Trump-Bots that want to seed doubt so less people vote for Harris

No of course not - Trump’s a huge buffoon that loves dictators just for the fact that they are dictators. I was just referencing the “Are You Really Going to Elect a Guy Who Has Good Things to Say About Hitler?”-Part, since that in itself for me is not automatically a negative.

Ignoring that Hitler had positive traits, too, and pretending that people voted for a guy that was evil in all aspects is convenient but very dangerous - especially since it enables people voting for populists like Trump to pretend that he can’t be as bad as Hitler (which is probably the case - but if Hitler is painted as this absolute evil it’s actually very easy to make this claim without a second though. If you see Hitler as an opportunistic asshole that wasn’t inherently evil just for the sake of it then that comparison is a lot closer.

Demonizing Hitler as some kind of comic-book villain is ignoring how complex the situation leading up to him becoming leader of the Third Reich was and how people didn’t see him for how bad he was until it was too late.

It was just an example because just last week someone was claiming Germany should stop using the Olympiastadion in Berlin only because it was constructed for propaganda reasons.

The fact that Hitler is responsible for that doesn’t necessarily make it bad. A horrible person can also do a few things right. You can acknowledge that without praising the guy.

There are people that get off on other people suffering and that want to create as much suffering as possible.

Those people are evil.

Hitler had an agency that saw people suffering as a means to an ends. That doesn’t excuse any of it and taking that route to get to that goal certainly is an evil decision, but that doesn’t automatically make the goal a bad one (in this case it was since the Holocaust was pretty much the goal and not just the way there).

Perhaps I’m using the wrong words as it’s not my native language but I think there are things he did that aren’t automatically bad just because it was Hitler who did them. That’s not praising the guy - it just acknowledges that even a broken clock is right twice a day and not always showing the wrong time by default.

I’d live to overthrow capitalism today rather than tomorrow - I just know that there are too many egoistic assholes out there that would just abuse whatever socialist system we would implement to fuck people over. The same kind of people that today have established themselves as billionaires - only that today it’s only a couple that managed that and I’d assume that between 20 and 40% of the population are completely ignorant of others if they think it helps themselves in the short term.

All I’m saying is that we should work together towards a goal that helps everyone instead of splitting the population and creating infighting which only helps those that are already on top.

If there was a common ground between Democrats and Republicans that certainly would be a shared interest to limit the power and wealth of “the elite” - it’s just that both sides have made it impossible to even talk about common ground and within both parties those wanting to reduce the wealth and influence of rich people are the minority and to divided to act.

I’m not praising Hitler at all. I’m only saying that people are deliberately ignoring that he didn’t do everything he did because he wanted to be evil, but because he had a (horrible) vision for the world. And not all aspects of that vision where inherently evil.

Humans just have the tendency to put everything into boxes of good or bad. It’s uncomfortable if something is not fitting 100% into one of those boxes. And from my experiences people almost never fit 100% into those boxes.

Even serial killers sometimes have grandmas they lovingly took care of.
Even child-rapists have friends they support when they need help.

Sure they still are monsters - but they still are humans, too

I never said he was a good guy? I just said that not everything he did was bad.

Are you disagreeing that his vision about the Autobahn or the founding of Volkswagen or the construction of things like the Olympiastadion are not good things despite the huge amount of horrible shit he did?
Are you not acknowledging that he was more charismatic in his speeches than many other people despite all the hateful things he fueled using that skill?

How is it so hard to see someone that’s clearly an enemy of everything we stand for today as a human and not as some supernatural evil? I think doing this is just helping the populists divide their countries even faster. There needs to be an understanding of why people follow those kind of guys and which things they are doing are not inherently evil to see why people were drawn to those characters.

I’m not saying you should compromise with Nazis. I’m in fact politically active here in Germany to oppose the CDU making deals with the AfD on a local level. I’m only saying that even the Nazis didn’t do things because they wanted to be evil - they did it because they had a different (horrible) vision of the world. I think it’s important to not see anyone as 100% evil as that is just a very cheap way to not have to think about uncomfortable things

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Opening the narrative with “I’ve seen things” in this way that people expect the Blade Runner Quote and then ending it with the “you wouldn’t believe” part is genius writing

They also decided to only use cameras and visual clues for driving instead of using radar, heat cameras or something like that as well.

It’s designed to be launched asap, not to be safe

Yeah - and they explain why they’ll never do a crypto currency. I don’t see how this is challenging anything I said before

That’s explicitly making clear how bad of an idea crypto is?

Vivaldi has that, too, without the cryptobro People owning the browser.

I switched to Zen, personally as any chromium seems to be doomed unless someone manages to fork the base project and take it away from Google

Arguing to change the person’s mind is useless.
Arguing to create another opinion for people stumbling over a post so shitty takes are not standing there unchallenged is totally worth it imho.

No need to go into a 20 comment deep bad faith argument - but if there’s no comment calling out a shitty take then that’s totally something I do think makes sense

It’s the first one I’ve paid for. And it is that much better than the free ones I used before imho.

If it’s free then you’re the product

And if you’re the product then there’s an interest to keep you on the site and show you ads which works best if the first result isn’t the correct one and you need to scroll or even go to page two

It’s literally the reason why Google got so much worse that they wanted to show more ads to users which wouldn’t work if the best result is always the first