Dems are really trying to set up 2016(2.0).

I think just as the media tries to bash Trump constantly but really loves him due to being good for their business, the same is true for the Democratic party.

This should be expected.

Why would a pro-palestine group endorse a candidate who is pro-Genocide of the Palestinians?

Of course it’s someone from ml that can’t take a joke

Of course it’s someone from world who posts perfect “poes law” bait and then cries about ml users. I literally started with

I hope you’re being sarcastic…

The followed with

If you really think

So here’s a tip for the future.

if 1 of 2 conjunction ˈif əf

1 a : in the event that b : allowing that c : on the assumption that d : on condition that

that I didn’t call Biden a genocidal fascist.

Cointelpro and government crackdown on any opposition to the right wing liberal order goes well beyond Biden, it just continued under him. You’re showing your absolutely unserious and reactionary team sport mentality.

Jokes on them, China is secretly preparing for military action against the US in 2026.

America, like always, late to the party!

I hope you’re being sarcastic…

If you really think this started with Trump and stopped with Trump, that’s what they want.

This is simply a continuation of Cointelpro and we saw the same tactics used against college campus protests under Biden.

This is a negative of undocumented immigration though. They should be treated as people, not as cattle.

Americans would do the jobs, just not with those conditions and wages. Undocumented immigrants need to do anything they can. The owner is going to choose to pay the immigrant less and cut corners on safety or other costs 9/10 times.

It’s an inherent contradiction of capitalism, the same one which used to be solved by slavery and colonialism, the need for maximum profit.

Thats why the way to stop the harmful effects of undocumented immigration isn’t to crack down on immigrants, but to crack down on corporations and document the immigrants. (And to reduce push factors such as neo-colonialiam and imperialism in their home countries)

Tell that to the immigrants the Dems keep fearmongering about.

Vice President Harris and Governor Walz believe in tough, smart solutions to secure the border, keep communities safe, and reform our broken immigration system. As Attorney General of California, Vice President Harris went after international drug gangs, human traffickers and cartels that smuggled guns, drugs, and human beings across the U.S.-Mexico border. As Vice President, she supported the bipartisan border security bill, the strongest reform in decades. The legislation would have deployed more detection technology to intercept fentanyl and other drugs and added 1,500 border security agents to protect our border. After Donald Trump killed the border deal for his political gain, she and President Biden took action on their own — and now border crossings are at the lowest level in 4 years, their administration is seizing record amounts of fentanyl, and secured funding for the most significant increase in border agents in ten years. As President, she will bring back the bipartisan border security bill and sign it into law. At the same time, she knows that our immigration system is broken and needs comprehensive reform that includes strong border security and an earned pathway to citizenship.

How is this not complete “they’re bringing drugs over our border, some I assume are very fine people” rhetoric? But it’s worse, because now this is the position of the “leftist” party.

When the “leftist” party is right wing on immigration, the right has to seperate themselves somehow, so now the ratchet clicked and Trump’s calling for pogroms.

The “Republican Party of yesterday” was the fucking Moral Majority. The Democratic Party is absolutely nothing like the “Republican Party of yesterday.”

The Republican party of yesterday was the Republicans of yesterday who are now endorsing the Democrats, because the Democrats best represent their ideology, otherwise they would be endorsing someone else.

Argue it all you want, they aren’t secret leftist heroes.

Because the Dem party is the Republican party of yesterday, not of today.

In 2038+ when they are the ex Republicans and Democrats have “compromised” their way to the current Republican parties position, they’ll be there.

They’re just supporting the same right wing Republican policies they have supported all along, the Dems just represent that viewpoint now.

Because it’s one of the few issues that the Democratic party and Republican party both tout as a problem.

Do they have bombs in them?

How many users does IG have that are registered as under 18?

I’m 25 now, but I still always say I was born in the 80s out of habit…

It’s a good step, but it won’t fix things.

The Zenocratic party

I used to find it utterly hilarious before I switched to Lemmy, how redditorshated twitterx and twitterx users, then would praise reddit and the reddit community lmfao.

Then you’re letting sentiment drive you rather than reason.

So you wouldn’t want the genocide to end if it came at the cost of someone killing themselves? Why?

Is the entire Palestinian population who are suffering a genocide worth less than a western life to you?

But I refuse to allow that someone’s opinion should be given more weight than mine just because they mutilate or kill themselves.

His opinion holds more weight than yours because he is right and you are attacking a martyr rather than focusing on the cause he was martyrd for.

Their mental disorder doesn’t confer moral superiority, it detracts from it.

Your insistence that they must be mentally ill/disorderd doesn’t negate moral superiority, it only further reveals your apologist mindset.

My handshake brings all the boys to the yard.

You’re saying the Democrats, who are welcoming immigrants into sanctuary cities and fighting to protect the rights of legal immigration, are somehow also responsible for fear-mongering about immigrants?

I’m saying the Democrats who have accepted and now push the 2016 right wing framing on immigration and the border as a national security threat are fear mongering about immigrants yes. Her official platform literally has

Vice President Harris and Governor Walz believe in tough, smart solutions to secure the border, keep communities safe, and reform our broken immigration system. As Attorney General of California, Vice President Harris went after international drug gangs, human traffickers and cartels that smuggled guns, drugs, and human beings across the U.S.-Mexico border. As Vice President, she supported the bipartisan border [far-right] security bill, the strongest reform in decades. The legislation would have deployed more detection technology to intercept fentanyl and other drugs and added 1,500 border security agents to protect our border. After Donald Trump killed the border deal for his political gain, she and President Biden took action on their own — and now border crossings are at the lowest level in 4 years [why is this good if people crossing the border aren’t bad], their administration is seizing record amounts of fentanyl, and secured funding for the most significant increase in border agents in ten years. As President, she will bring back the bipartisan [far-right]border security bill and sign it into law. At the same time, she knows that our immigration system is broken and needs comprehensive reform that includes strong border security and an earned pathway to citizenship.

That’s an interesting take. What do you call it when Republicans…

Whataboutism. “The Republican party are evil so it’s alright that the Democratic party is evil too!”.

Edit: Also, I call them the thought leaders for the future of the Democratic party as they shift further and further right on these issues in the name of "compromise " and “reaching across the aisle”

They’re the ones doing that, they’re in charge right now and conducting a genocide in Gaza while fear mongering about immigrants.

Yep, the Democratic party never learns that it can’t just shame voters into compliance while offering them nothing.

That’s unfortunate

It’s unfortunate that you would rather attack a man for the way he opposes a genocide than move on and oppose a genocide yourself.

You can’t support him because it would support his truth that we are all culpable, and you can’t face that reality.

And yes, it is America’s fault he has genocide on his conscience and felt compelled to go to such measures, he is a victim of America’s genocide. Was Hitler just suicidal in that bunker? Or do you recognize that external actions can influence such things in that case, and just choose to remain ignorant in this one?

Would you like me to be pro-suicide.

I would like you to be a sympathetic understanding human being opposed to genocide, who even if they don’t agree with this man’s actions themselves, recognizes the context they exist in and focuses towards the true goal of opposing a genocide, rather than attacking a righteous martyr.

But that’s a tall ask for Americans in the core of the genocidal imperialist project, unfortunately.