Look, I’m not saying crashing public transportation should be allowed…

… but as the protagonists of a 1980s school comedy, I feel like this can’t end too harshly for them or else it’ll just be bleak and unwatchable.

“I WAS going to vote against fascism, but now you’ve FORCED me to vote for fascism!”

Americans are pretty ideologically incoherent anyway.

Fuckin’ mood. You can’t have an IRL conversation about political policy with people because it’s all fucking feels to them. My personal ‘favorite’ is people saying they’re against gun control, and voting accordingly, but if you ask them what their policy preferences are they’re more pro-gun-control than many people who claim to be pro-gun control.

Which states are not fascist states? I’m curious. Or is every state a fascist state?

We should declare them terrorists and ship them to gitmo.

Let’s not. In fact, let’s not abuse US and international law with Gitmo ever again, please.

68% also support a path for citizenship for undocumented immigrants who came here as children. Really, the only thing this says is 54% of Americans don’t support mass amnesty - which, while unfortunate, should not be surprising to anyone who hasn’t bought into the “99% of the electorate is secretly far-left!” shite sometimes peddled by the deluded.

The unfortunate fact is that Hamas’s brutality is rightly put on the back burner until Israel’s current level of genocide is no longer killing hundreds of people per day.

An old joke

Question: What does a lesbian bring on a second date?

Answer: A U-Haul.

It is considered a staple of lesbian humor.[5] It is often attributed to comic Lea DeLaria,[6][7] who claimed in her 1997 comedy album, Box Lunch, that she had written it in 1989 — in the album, she gets the audience to yell back the punchline, showing it was already well-known at the time of recording.[8]

As there are numerous U-Hauls involved here, clearly it’s a polycule

Don’t worry, we only approve of Soviet style here, not Soviet atrocities.

Fried chicken is as American as apple pie, for Christ’s sake! “African-Americans like an American staple!”, uh, yes?? How is that supposed to be a distinguishing mark amongst Americans, much less a bad one??

Racists are not just ignorant and malicious bastards. They’re also deeply weird.

The period of time where the KPD became Stalinist and Thalmann took over?

Thalmann didn’t consolidate his power until 1928, so unless 1920-1928 has a different meaning than the obvious one…

When the Nazis became powerful with th3 support of the ebtrenched hyper right wing?

The Nazis became powerful in 1920-1928.

Are you sure you want to keep to that claim.

The SA 100% grew out of Freikorps.

Your claim was that the Freikorps ‘converted’ into orgs like the SA. Which is not even vaguely true. Like, I don’t really know how to carry on a conversation with someone who looks at the independent paramilitaries of the Freikorps and sees the same thing as a fucking street fighting arm of a minor political party because both are comprised of right-wing WW1 veterans.

And 1920-1928 is not the 8 years prior to 1931, or a half decade.

Being so loosey goosey with these things doesn’t mesh with the kinds of statements you keep making here.

it FORCED Thalmann, coming into power in a KPD that had had a very productive relationship with the SPD for the past 8 or so years, to cooperate with the literal Nazis.

Your lack of literacy is not my problem. Sorry that “Thalmann came into power in 1928 after 8 or so years of a productive relationship between the KDP and SDP” is too complex for you to parse.

Even so: that period of time where Freikorps effectively disbanded was when they converted into orgs like Consul or the SA starting in the 1920s. That component isn’t as fragmented or inconsequential as it may seem. There is continuity there and it isn’t insane to know about it.

The idea of comparing the Freikorps with the SA is insane. Consul was disbanded in 1922 by government repression. But hey, who gives a fuck about facts when you can play Bothsides™ games?

They really did not.

Oh, okay, so the period between 1920-1928 just didn’t exist, cool cool cool.

I really am more focused on the whole Prussian military organization structure and the coalition with the Freikorps, who were demonstrably anti-democratic monarchist military groups in direct coalition with the Ebert government. It is such a major component to the whole SPD-KPD relationship that was so bad it led to Thallman actively supporting Hitler.

The Freikorps was such a major component to the SPD-KPD relationship that… almost a decade after the Freikorps had been effectively disbanded, it FORCED Thalmann, coming into power in a KPD that had had a very productive relationship with the SPD for the past 8 or so years, to cooperate with the literal Nazis.

Fucking insane.

The point is that under capitalism you can never have true change through reform, this is agreed upon by nearly every major communist ideology.

There’s a difference between “Capitalism will not reform itself out of existence” and “Democracy must be overthrown by a small cabal of vanguardists before the People’s Will can TRULY be expressed”. Unless Kautsky and other Orthodox Marxists are no longer ‘major communist ideologies’

How is highlighting the aftermath of World War 1 and that context leaving it out?

By literally leaving that context out and attempting to paint it as “Mean ol’ SPD went murdering the KPD for no reason :(” instead of literal fucking self-defense against an anti-democratic coup attempt. But fascist apologists rarely argue in good faith.

The critical issue is Ebert (who inherited authority from the monarchy initially) made a coalition with the Freikorps to allow the Weimar republic to inherit the separate governance for the military that existed in the Reich. That was instrumental and core to the issue.

Ah, yes, what he should have done is nobly refused compromise with what was the actual power returning to the country from the front, that way Germany could have enjoyed fascist dictatorship some 15 years early, or a ML dictatorship some 25 years early.

I remember when I was a young lad seeing a magazine about some drama or another involving a ‘love triangle’, and, confused, asking my mother if one of the members of the triangle was gay, since I couldn’t conceive how a love triangle could work otherwise.

“I didn’t say anything of the sort (unless the audience liked it)”

I would say there’s a significant difference in the approach. The Biden administration throwing things at the wall in the hopes that something will stick is a bit different in intent to the Bush administration lying, obfuscating, denying, downplaying, and only then resorting to semantics to cover their illegal activity. Not that Dems have never done that, but the two examples you cited are far from the egregious disrespect for the law displayed by the Bush administration.

In any case, we’re in agreement that Trump is beyond even that. What a shitshow. It can always get worse, it seems.

Stalinists are absolutely fascists. Accelerationism is just the preferred technique.

I wouldn’t cut things off at a half decade. A little more than a decade prior the German communist leadership were killed by military companies in coalition with the SPD,

Yes, after trying to coup the government before elections could be held. Funny how tankies and their apologists always leave that out.

and then those same military groups tried to overthrow the SPD government, but the SPD ended up compromising with the coup uprising anyway.

“Compromising” here meaning “If you surrender we’ll give you amnesty”. Wow, what an astounding compromise.