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Depends, imo.

Are we factoring in the clownish refunds that are being prepped to go out to ‘reimburse’ landlords for the COVID pandemic moratoriums, which are both absolutely going to end up mostly in the pockets of corporate landlords and for which I also predict another batch of stupid application processes a la PPP processing style? And the precedent they would set?

Different answers between reality being allowed to unfurl as logic and nature dictates and the manufactured fuckery we get to experience.

That wouldn’t detonate a claymore.

The more I look at the image, the more terrifyingly genius it becomes.

The laser tripwires in video games are a visual stand-in for good ol’ boring metal tripwires which a claymore can actually use. The tripwire moving around it’s housing changes the circuit state inside the electric blasting cap and off comes the wall of deadly balls.

But you don’t need to tripwire. You can remote detonate.

Or for the purposes of the meme, Alexa can time when to detonate. Just needs a little camera to see when and wire leads into the claymore’s blasting cap to deliver the electric triggering…

This isn’t a meme. It’s theory…

Does anyone know an old appliance salesman who used to sell other things back in old country? Asking for a friend.

That is illegal under GDPR, if true

This statement is unfortunately doing a lot of work with the word “that”, even if I dearly wish it wasn’t so. Like, I really wish it were that easy, it would even the playing field back to the non-corporate webmaster almost instantly.

But alas.

The GDPR doesn’t have some special category where data only becomes data once you hit Submit. Article 4 literally defines “processing” to include collection, recording, and storage. So yes, depending on what the site is actually doing, it can absolutely be processing what you type before you submit anything:

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2016/679/art_4/oj/eng

But that does not get you from “they captured it” to “therefore illegal.” GDPR doesn’t prohibit processing personal data; it regulates how and why you can do it. Article 6 gives six possible lawful bases for processing, including consent, contractual necessity, and legitimate interests (and it is bastardizing the spirit of how these six interconnect that these companies use to skirt intent of the law):

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2016/679/art_6/oj/eng

The actually interesting question is what they’re capturing, why, how long they retain it, what they do with it, whether they disclosed that processing, and what lawful basis they’re claiming.

That’s where you can potentially have a GDPR problem.

Article 5 requires, among other things, fairness/transparency, purpose limitation, data minimization, limited retention, and appropriate security:

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2016/679/art_5/oj/eng

And Article 13 requires the relevant information to be provided when the personal data is obtained. There isn’t a magical “well technically the user never clicked Submit” exemption from transparency:

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2016/679/art_13/oj/eng

There’s also a separate ePrivacy issue if we’re talking about storing or accessing information on the user’s device. Article 5(3) generally requires consent unless the storage/access is strictly necessary to provide a service the user explicitly requested:

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/en/TXT/?uri=CELEX%3A62017CJ0673

And this is where the details get important again, because regulators have explicitly recognized things like short-lived, first-party “user-input” session cookies for multi-page forms as potentially falling within that necessary-function exemption. See WP29 Opinion 04/2012:

https://ec.europa.eu/justice/article-29/documentation/opinion-recommendation/files/2012/wp194_en.pdf

That is a very different animal from silently retaining abandoned form contents indefinitely, sending them somewhere unexpected, profiling somebody with them, or reusing them for advertising.

So if somebody actually wants to know whether their abandoned input was retained and what happened to it, GDPR gives them tools for finding out instead of having to speculate from browser behavior. Make an access request to the controller and ask what personal data they hold, the purposes/legal basis, recipients, retention period, and the source/context of the collection.

They normally have one month to respond under Article 12:

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2016/679/art_12/oj/eng

If they don’t respond, or the answer establishes something questionable, then you have something concrete to take to the relevant supervisory authority under Article 77:

https://eur-lex.europa.eu/eli/reg/2016/679/art_77/oj/eng

The EDPB has the list of national authorities here:

https://www.edpb.europa.eu/contact_en

GDPR is leverage, not a magical force field that prevents a server from receiving bytes. The useful part is that it gives you a mechanism to make the controller explain what those bytes became, why they kept them, and what they did with them—and a regulator to complain to if the answers suck.

Mate, I hear ya. Everything you said has many kernels of truth in it, but it doesn’t invalidate what the commenter you’re replying to, is trying to tell you.

There will not be enough workers to support us in old age.

This is precisely, why it’s important to badger and force representatives into the exact same discussion about changes to the bill, as the OOP’s shared article touches upon.

You first raise the cap, so the millionaires who are temporarily embarrassed billionaires pay their fair share, and once those loud mother fuckers get used to it, they’re now on your side to keep pushing it up until it hits the owner class.

Productivity gains ain’t decreasing, and the automation that the labor class toiled to make a reality for these fuckheads, shouldn’t have all of its production gain remain as profit for the owners

Nothing can. Not for any website. It never has.

Even if the site’s platform wasn’t set up with a simple and trivial to implement function(s) to undo posted changes on the front/back end interfaces, and even if it does allow the delete button to actually delete the entry from the database (to my knowledge, this wasn’t even the norm before the corpo takeover of the web)…

It’s like, 2-3 simple SQL queries to pull a backup pre-the changes, and merge back in whatever form you want into the live database.

This was always possible, since the day we started using DBs to better serve dynamic content.

Again, this applies to pretty much any web property.

It’s stupidly common and easy. Practically any text field can be made to capture and cache “unsent” data, because it’s not actually a standard text field that only does POST when you submit, but rather something that is continuously polled (usually AJAX) and the data saved to whatever database tables they got set up for it.

Wonders of scripting.

NoScript will stop it, but then the platforms that rely on this bullshittery for ill, usually are the kind to try to force you into having JavaScript or worse enabled.

Some examples of this I’ve seen/used in the wild:

When I worked at a credit union, the last upgrade to the “online banking” towards Lumin(link to their marketing site in case you want to see their screenshots, almost no CU/Bank who uses them bothers to customize it) the then “hot and new” vendor platform that was hot then amongst digital banking solutions for small to midsize institutions, uses it on every text field.

E.g. the search omnibar input from atop the accounts where you can search help topics, and the input from the fields around the FAQ sections (input meaning both sent queries and anything typed but not submitted) were all visible to the call center folks, with strings like “user typed ‘how do I hide my 10k deposit through mobile banking’ into [field name] but did not submit”, as these were expected to be data for the reps to use in their servicing or whatever.

Another (much bigger) example: The omni bar at Google.com specifically (and I have no idea how many in their Android apps, but given that they have more control there than over your browser I’d just assume every single one…Google Keyboard included).

If you get yourself through all the trouble and effort to somehow arrive at search site unknown (your customized FF privacy fork is really fucking good or something) and for some reason need or allow scripting on their page and type ad targetty helpful info but never search…it’s still gonna make it into whatever shadow profile they’re prepping for linkage to the real you ASAP, and eagerly wants to personalize those ads with your unsent data.

My own community writing website:

It came bundled with a Xenforo add-on I used for some stupid feature I wasn’t smart enough to do myself 5-7 years ago. I don’t run any sort of ads or tracking whatsoever on my site, so it’s pretty much useless.

Can already hear you making

This implies preemptive assumptions on my part. I could be wrong. You stated facts, true.

If that is the extent of your stance on the topic, then that portion of my comment is irrelevant, and needlessly combative.

Not that I’m apologizing for it, these are not the times for that.

Absolutely true. Also just like, fundamentally bullshit, and perfectly reasonable to consider expansion of the cap.

Those currently over the cap reap outsized benefits borne from the labor of those who don’t make the cap. That’s how they fucking made it, above the cap.

There is no moral turpitude in taxing them to fund a social net they won’t directly use, because they’ve been indirectly benefitting from it all along.

The piddling argument I can already hear you making, gets even more ridiculous when you scale past the professionally licensed professions and get into pure capitalists.

This is a compromise being offered, in lieu of the buffet table, and of course they’re gonna be too fucking stupid to accept it because the morons forgot the bread part and all they got left is their shitty circus.

“Good, I’m glad he’s dead.”

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… Wouldn’t that then mean that every single US company would have an avenue to sue the US government for “negligence” in the handling of the Strait causing disruption?

will make what were once optional guardrails mandatory for its users to implement by Jan. 1.

Jan. 1.

It’s more insulting than that. They’re hedging their bets that they won’t have to do it at all in the first place, first.

Their fascist die roll doesn’t land, then they can swap to the standard corpo bullshit described above.

Ugh. I’m so sorry and angry every time I think on this…

…Full surveillance state. I do believe there is some end game these tech…on the horizon…matter of them making it come to fruition before reality crashes down on their heads…

We should bankrupt them faster because it’s what they deserve, and the progress needs to be slowed at all costs.

But the reasons why all this is unfolding? Very clear to see, and you even referenced them without really pausing to consider.

Fascism isn’t stupider this time around (in so far as being beyond the already astronomical stupidity required to believe it’s a solution to fucking anything).

It’s desperate. They didn’t pivot away from their little spaceship dreams and into AI because it’s more profitable. They don’t care to come ahead in an economically sound world.

I’m sorry. Time has ran out on the climate and our biosphere, as far as them retaining the properties that allowed us the ‘Modern World’.

There is no longer an avenue that averts widespread desolation, and they’ve known it all along because they don’t actually all ignore scientific consensus, they just pay for the masses to ignore it.

It’s going to be a gnarly and awful time, but humans aren’t wired to just give up and die.

Hence the total surveillance state. Hence the mass casual cruelty with mass deaths. Hence the persecution of anyone who might oppose or see through it.

The world as we know it will be reduced to ashes, in our lifetimes, and we’ll have to scramble to do whatever our species will do just to barely persist in some form, as that is just what we do.

They dream of a techno feudalist dreamscape where each little Dragon has their manageable fiefdom composed of a diminished and controllable populace to continue to carry out their self-aggrandizing whims. They can burn all of the economy now, because they’re trying to trade it for straight power.

Joke’s on them, they’ll die by the masses too, and those that don’t, will die by the masses. It’s not that hard for thousands of angry and with nothing to lose people to go after them.

Their dream of Autonomous Weapon guardians is as laughable as the rest of the stupidity they’ve attempted and failed at throughout the years: It will be as imperfect a solution to what they’re attempting as anything else they’ve ever done.

But we collectively let them have control of the playground while it was fresh and clean, so now we gotta deal with their bullshit king of the hill fantasies and the results of their evil stupidity.

It’s worse than that. She had a mental health crisis and what the article terms a “street incident”. The article makes it clear that she was in crisis, visibly, and faced a strong language barrier.

So what happened to her? Not a hospital. Not care. She was put in a county jail. For SIX MONTHS.

THEN comes ICE. She’s already spent six months in a confusing hellscape where even the cruelty is as ad-hoc and unstructured as everything else besides the actual routines of confinement.

Six. Fucking. Months.

After ICE did what they did…she didn’t even wander. She was so broken, confused and lost that she just treated it as a continuation of her confinement:

Surveillance camera images show Michel at the bus shelter on Pittsburgh’s south side, sitting on the bench in daylight at first on 1 March, with a small, pale bag of belongings, still sitting there in darkness that evening, then slumped half upright on the ground and eventually lying on the ground the following morning.

She didn’t even move from that spot. A human being in need of help, and they might as well have driven her and thrown in her a dumpster, it would have had the same effect.

ICE is only one piece of the course corrections required and very important, but the system practically killed her six months before they did the actual murder.

There’s more than a couple of chuds in an SUV to just.

Goddammit, fine. I will go to the next reunion, and I will bring chicken for the lads, for old time’s sake.

You know what else Reddit used to have? More comments like yours. You got it all nailed down in your observations. With intent, thought, and personality.

Same way you wrote a ridiculous yet thoroughly engaging “Elden Ring Journal” here on Lemmy (made my night lol).

That capacity for real people to have both the spaces and freedom to display themselves, whether that was them at their most intent focused in one community, or them at their most relaxed and silly in another, was one of the meta-qualities that their system didn’t intend by design but which became hands down the emergent quality that allowed them to even get to being what they became post 2005 and pre-July 1, 2023.

The moment they started doing all the fuckery you rightly noted, they killed the conditions in which that emergent property could thrive.

Reddit doesn’t just no longer feel the same because the system’s changed, but because the changes were done with no regards for what it did to the organization’s spirit, which for a web related property, has always been something defined by its users, and not the creators, all the way back to the first BBS.

I am one of the 90%. I have lurked in online spaces before and since Reddit, watching, and only occasionally sharing any thoughts.

Not because I’m antisocial (ok, maybe a little bit), but because there was always enough spirit to absorb, enough humanity to just bask in the display of shared thoughts between other people, that enough satisfaction was derived just reading, nodding along, and whispering opinions I had no intention to post.

That spirit, that humanity, is utterly dead in Reddit (and most of social media these days), and it behooves us all who care to not see it forever gone, to not see it driven away completely in the face of a dead Internet, to do something about it.

I guess I need to post more on Lemmy until I can return to invisibility, ugh.

Anyhow, great “rant”, greater comments, and even greater silly posting, @Abyssian@lemmy.world, thank you for your time and thoughts!

I don’t know how well that would work. The worst of these fucks seem to act with some sort of freakish resistance to acknowledging the natural world.

I don’t mean that in some green washy climate related way (though that would have been nice, oh, 60 years ago), I mean they literally seem to resist acknowledging the actual physical state of reality as put before them.

I used to be a full blown atheist, but goddamn if I’m not starting to wonder if the Gnostics aren’t on to something.

You entirely sidestepped the scenario and issue. In the example given, the copyrighted work is being produced directly onto a medium that obfuscates its provenance, literally. Yet, gives an opening for another to publish it in such a way, that they could claim it’s their copyrighted work. They would be lying, and they would be wrong, but then you would have to prove to a body composed of ancient mummies who uphold an ancient code, why one of the few ways they thought they understood technology and codified into their verification process, isn’t actually showing them the truth this time. Do you know how to defend a copyright claim?

Other poster isn’t being difficult, facetious, or provocative, btw. The scumbags have already done exactly that, in other US states, already. Often. The articles are all over Lemmy.