… as explained here.

Basically Microsoft presents this “incredible” product, and then says in the same breath: “Oops, not for your current setup. Maybe you should consider buying a new PC?”

Really!? 😠

If only Linux were ready for mainstream use…

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      We’re close. We just need a couple of vendors to step up and take some responsibility.

      Steam already picked up all the hard stuff.

      Adobe products, Outlook, and of all fucking things Roblox.

      I probably also really wouldn’t hurt if somebody could manage to make Nvidia background removal working OBS Linux.

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        Yeah the Roblox thing is hard to swallow, it used to work better on Linux than on any other platform for me. Everything else there’s alternatives - my local PC shop sells machines at a significant discount “without windows installed”, maybe if more did that the market would take care of things and the software vendors would have to support Linux.

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        Roblox runs great on Linux, they just explicitly blocked it right?

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    What are you trying to do that you don’t think you can do on Linux? Also there’s ways to install Windows 11 on unsupported systems.

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      Tbf, I work with Linux regularly and it’s great for me. But for the average user who wants basically zero learning curve like your average Android provides? Linux is a hard sell. To repeat what has been said so many times here:

      • Games. It’s better than it used to be, but Windows just does it better. The same goes for general software compatibility. Windows Store apps, for example, generally don’t run at all.

      • My surrounding never wants to open or see a command line. Ever.

      • Driver & hardware support. Windows still beats Linux here. And this is an important one.

      • Easy compatibility between distros. What works on one may not work on another. That’s a problem.

      Like that.

      Really, for someone willing to learn how their PC works, Linux is a good choice, maybe even a great choice. I love my Linux PCs. Am on OpenSuse at the moment and its been a fantastic experience. Couldn’t avoid some of the problems above, of course. But this isn’t about me.

      For someone who just wants to click and install games, plug in random hardware and start using it a few seconds later, never touch an update interface and basically wants a system that just works intuitively because that’s what they’ve known for years… Windows is a better choice. And I say this with a sad heart, because I really wish that Linux was the competitor that Microsoft fears.


      Edit: thanks for the reminder; I will likely install Windows 11 (the unsupported version as it were) for my immediate surrounding, apart from some techies. 😄

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        I hear ya. I bought a AMD CPU+GPU laptop to run Linux on, but a month later I’m back to Windows.

        While the default graphics driver worked most of the time, I had random graphic card crashes on a 20 year old Wine-ran game. Even the official amdgpu driver had issues (PITA to install as its not being maintained). No issues with newer games through Steam (Proton is amazeballs) fortunately. I also had random issues with a second monitor not being detected that were probably graphics driver related. Some random UI focus issues were likely a window manager issue (KDE).

        Sleep/hibernate doesn’t work ‘out of the box’ and I couldn’t get it working reliably after screwing with grub. It was a gamble if it would actually power down or just go back to the lock screen. I don’t know why its so difficult for a basic thing that’s been around for decades.

        So now I’m back on Windows, everything works as expected. Honestly I love Linux and its leaps and bounds better from what it was, but Windows is a still better choice for hardware support reasons. I’ll give it another try if AMD gets it together with their driver support.

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          I’ll give it another try if AMD gets it together with their driver support.

          As an AMD GPU linux user this is confusing. There is no driver needed. There is nothing to do with AMD. Must be the laptop? A unusual variant, or early adopter?

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    Linux is mainstream ready. A lot of people still just use a web browser. For decades now Linux came with an intuitive GUI driven installer, a whole live Linux OS running on a CD when windows still used a dos like setup. Linux has worked great for decades to use a web browser, which is a lot of what people do on computers.

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      Therein lies the problem. The kind of people who only use a web browser have absolutely no need to use Linux as there are far better options

      The kind of people who would like to switch to Linux do far more than just use a web browser, and Linux still doesn’t “just work” after all this time

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    I downgraded from 11 to 10 and disabled TPM. Fuck you Microsoft. I’ll pay for antivirus once support ends.

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      Antivirus won’t do s*** for you, if a good exploit comes through they don’t need a virus they just do whatever they want. Even the best EDR packages out there have their limits if you don’t keep updates.