Hahaha “innocent”. Ever had life saving medicine or treatment for you or a loved one denied by the insurance company? You will, one day. And that’s not me wishing you ill, that’s just how wide spread and devastating this issue is. Inevitably it will happen to you. Maybe you won’t think these people are so innocent then.
i think I see where the confusion is coming from. Brian the Billionaire was not innocent, and in fact as CEO had an active hand in implementing company policies to deny people healthcare and leech money from the sick and infirm. he absolutely, 100%, without a doubt deserved to die, and in my opinion, he got off relatively lightly, all things considered. two or three bullets is incredibly merciful compared to rotting in a hospital while your insurance denies your coverage and drains your bank account.
What is the alternative? Letting him go around denying the requests of those people who really need, who he SHOULD be helping (cause thats healthcare’s job) until they die? Just for the sake of profit? That’s not justice, and him dying is not a good option either, but its the best people has, sadly.
People can boycott the company. People can organize protests. People can use other healthcare companies. People can lobby to setup other types of healthcare systems.
Murdering someone because you don’t like them isn’t the answer.
Ah yes, let me just boycott my health insurance provider. Since it’s provided through my work, it’s real easy and convenient (not to mention cheap!) to switch to a different provider. And as for socialized medicine I’m sure Congress will get right on that, just as soon as the Democrats have a majority in the Senate. What’s that? They already had that and they sat with their thumbs in their asses not passing any laws because of something something bipartisanship? No matter, I’m sure it’s fine. If we put them in charge again I’m sure things will be different! We just need to vote!
Lmfao stop trolling dawg, theres literally no way you actually believe this. Are you a paid shill, from a different country, or just seeking to rile people up?
Escusé moi, nothing says all of humanity has to be on a contiguous spectrum when it comes to respect.
For one, farm animals do you no evil, and you don’t owe them any authority, so they “start” with a higher default respect than what some humans can ever earn with their actions.
Those poor rich people have to deal with so much hatred and discrimination😢
That’s why I’m personally volunteering to take their money so they can no longer be rich and subject to such hate. I may be hated instead, but I’m willing to bear that cross and take up the Rich Man’s Burden. Some may call me a hero, but I ask for nothing in return, no praise, no monuments in my honor. The only thing I ask for is to take over the burden of owning a mountain of unearned wealth.
“The recent murders of people experiencing homelessness - many who were sleeping at the time - is a cruel reminder that this is a life-and-death issue that must be met with urgency,” Jeff Olivet, director of the US Interagency Council on Homelessness, said.
Those interviewed said that a political climate that stigmatises homelessness, inadequate housing, and gang and drug violence all help create a dangerous world for some of America’s most vulnerable people.
I could almost applaud you for some kind of “holier than thou” morality you seem to be trying to project about the UHC CEO murder. Unfortunately your comments expose that you’re just a middle-upper class cheerleader who stigmatizes the poor (as proclaimed from above, “No one is murdering the poor. - Except other poor people with guns and drugs. Or themselves” jesus I can’t believe you actually commented that).
the key question is what it means to “die from poverty.” As a social determinant of health, the government already recognizes a direct line between economic conditions and health outcomes.
Why are America’s poor dying young? According to the paper, the causes are internal. Most of the variation in life expectancy doesn’t come from “external factors,” like murder, but rather from medical causes, like heart disease and diabetes. The poor die early because they get sicker faster.
Fining the homeless for being homeless. If you are homeless in America and have nowhere to go and are down on your luck, it is increasingly difficult to find a safe space in which to exist without being fined for loitering. According to the report, an estimated 600,000 people are homeless on any given night. Though nearly 13 percent of the nation’s low-income housing has been lost since 2001, and many people simply cannot afford housing, 34 percent of cities ban public camping, 18 percent prohibit sleeping in public and 43 percent prevent people from sleeping in vehicles
the discovery that the death rate for middle-aged white Americans began rising around 1999 is alarming. The increase is accounted for entirely by those with a high school degree or less. The 2013 mortality rates for midlife whites with that level of educational attainment was 736 per 100,000; for those with some college education it was 288 per 100,000; for whites with a B.A. or higher their death rate stood at 178 per 100,000. In other words, whites who have only a high school degree or less are four times more likely to die between ages 45 and 54 than are college-educated whites.
Poverty creates more poverty. – financial decisions forced by poverty often end up keeping poor people stuck in poverty.
Poor people spend more of their income on necessities. Lower-income Americans spend more of their income on housing, food and groceries, and transportation, compared to mid and high-income individuals.
Less expensive goods are often less economical. Poor people often buy low-quality goods in small quantities, leading to constant replacement and higher costs over time.
Financial exclusion exacerbates poverty. People with poor access to credit often pay exorbitant interest rates and high fees for basic financial services.
Are you completely unaware of the financial and economical situation going on in America? The rising cost of Healthcare, Education, and housing/life expenses? You’re honestly coming off as a shill to everyone, maybe planning on a future political run so have to keep your comments “politically moral” (i.e. make sure the higher up’s approve of your message)? Don’t want to turn into another Mark Robinson I suppose.
If you have some coherent messaging or reasoning I would love to hear it. So far I’m assuming you hate the poor and blame everyone for their life situations, there are no outside factors that determines someones struggles in life but themselves? The poor die by their own hands or those close to them, no one in a position of power has done anything to cause them problems?
There’s a lot of people in this world who make bad choices like using drugs, alcohol, smoking, eating food that’s bad for them, etc. Someone doesn’t have to be poor to make those decisions. But those who don’t have a lot of money, choosing alcohol over food – then complain about not having enough food – that’s on them.
They don’t deserve to be gunned down in cold blood and neither does someone with money.
That’s a horrible sentiment. Don’t condone evil.
I’m not. I’m condoning getting rid of evil.
You’re evil if you desire an innocent person to murdered.
Hahaha “innocent”. Ever had life saving medicine or treatment for you or a loved one denied by the insurance company? You will, one day. And that’s not me wishing you ill, that’s just how wide spread and devastating this issue is. Inevitably it will happen to you. Maybe you won’t think these people are so innocent then.
i think I see where the confusion is coming from. Brian the Billionaire was not innocent, and in fact as CEO had an active hand in implementing company policies to deny people healthcare and leech money from the sick and infirm. he absolutely, 100%, without a doubt deserved to die, and in my opinion, he got off relatively lightly, all things considered. two or three bullets is incredibly merciful compared to rotting in a hospital while your insurance denies your coverage and drains your bank account.
He absolutely without a doubt did NOT deserve to be murdered.
Of course not, but how do you get him in jail then?
Who said he needs to be in jail?
What is the alternative? Letting him go around denying the requests of those people who really need, who he SHOULD be helping (cause thats healthcare’s job) until they die? Just for the sake of profit? That’s not justice, and him dying is not a good option either, but its the best people has, sadly.
What did he deserve, then?
A life full of torture and despair.
People can boycott the company. People can organize protests. People can use other healthcare companies. People can lobby to setup other types of healthcare systems.
Murdering someone because you don’t like them isn’t the answer.
Ah yes, let me just boycott my health insurance provider. Since it’s provided through my work, it’s real easy and convenient (not to mention cheap!) to switch to a different provider. And as for socialized medicine I’m sure Congress will get right on that, just as soon as the Democrats have a majority in the Senate. What’s that? They already had that and they sat with their thumbs in their asses not passing any laws because of something something bipartisanship? No matter, I’m sure it’s fine. If we put them in charge again I’m sure things will be different! We just need to vote!
There’s other options for health insurance:
https://www.healthcare.gov/
Lmfao stop trolling dawg, theres literally no way you actually believe this. Are you a paid shill, from a different country, or just seeking to rile people up?
Define innocent
Not deserving of being murdered.
So if I mug three people, scam other five, misplace three livers to be transplanted to children, and share my Netflix password, I’m innocent.
Excellent! I’ll let the judge know your opinion on those matters when I’m asked.
Letting countless people die to make money isn’t evil?
Dead CEOs is a moral good
That’s an evil way of thinking.
Nope it is a great, correct, and good way of thinking. These are thieves and murderers and they rarely receive justice.
Someone could say that you deserve to be murdered. Just because someone says that doesn’t mean it should happen.
Many people do say that I deserve to be murdered, actually. The cool part is that I am right and they are wrong.
Guess I’m evil then… ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Why?
Eating the rich isn’t evil
Believing people aren’t human just because they have money is evil.
Assuming calling them evil means that they’re not human is presumptive.
Humans can be evil.
you have more respect for literal farm animals. ergo you do not see him as human.
Escusé moi, nothing says all of humanity has to be on a contiguous spectrum when it comes to respect.
For one, farm animals do you no evil, and you don’t owe them any authority, so they “start” with a higher default respect than what some humans can ever earn with their actions.
I didn’t even express an opinion. You reply to the wrong person?
It ain’t because of the money, it’s because their greed is killing everybody and everything. And I never said anything about them being not human.
Those poor rich people have to deal with so much hatred and discrimination😢
That’s why I’m personally volunteering to take their money so they can no longer be rich and subject to such hate. I may be hated instead, but I’m willing to bear that cross and take up the Rich Man’s Burden. Some may call me a hero, but I ask for nothing in return, no praise, no monuments in my honor. The only thing I ask for is to take over the burden of owning a mountain of unearned wealth.
Who said he isn’t human?
The people in the comments. It’s unbelievable.
Can you provide three examples?
Its easy, just pay the normies to like you.
They don’t, that’s why they left that comment
There’s lots of people on this thread (and in the Internet) who are showing how evil they are by condoning this murder.
Whats your stance on state sanctioned murder? Overseas murder? Illegal, out of season murder of animals?
Yet murder of the poor is ok with you 🤦
No one is murdering the poor.
(Except other poor people with guns and drugs. Or themselves.)
What we know about Jordan Neely’s chokehold death on the New York subway
Toronto Police Service reported that eight teenagers allegedly swarmed Lee over a three-minute period, repeatedly stabbing him.
Deaths put spotlight on growing US homeless population
I could almost applaud you for some kind of “holier than thou” morality you seem to be trying to project about the UHC CEO murder. Unfortunately your comments expose that you’re just a middle-upper class cheerleader who stigmatizes the poor (as proclaimed from above, “No one is murdering the poor. - Except other poor people with guns and drugs. Or themselves” jesus I can’t believe you actually commented that).
Poverty is a major public health crisis. Let’s treat it like one.
Why the Poor Die Young
5 Ways Being Poor is a Crime
Poverty Is Deadly
The Cost of Being Poor: Why It Costs So Much to Be Poor in America
Are you completely unaware of the financial and economical situation going on in America? The rising cost of Healthcare, Education, and housing/life expenses? You’re honestly coming off as a shill to everyone, maybe planning on a future political run so have to keep your comments “politically moral” (i.e. make sure the higher up’s approve of your message)? Don’t want to turn into another Mark Robinson I suppose.
If you have some coherent messaging or reasoning I would love to hear it. So far I’m assuming you hate the poor and blame everyone for their life situations, there are no outside factors that determines someones struggles in life but themselves? The poor die by their own hands or those close to them, no one in a position of power has done anything to cause them problems?
Holy shit this is the greatest comment I have ever seen on a public forum. Does lemmy have a bestof community?
There’s a lot of people in this world who make bad choices like using drugs, alcohol, smoking, eating food that’s bad for them, etc. Someone doesn’t have to be poor to make those decisions. But those who don’t have a lot of money, choosing alcohol over food – then complain about not having enough food – that’s on them.
They don’t deserve to be gunned down in cold blood and neither does someone with money.
Even when, by making the world hell, you nudge, inspire or promote them to turn to alcohol?
Are you saying people are not responsible for influencing or coercing other people or their environment?
You’re arguing that people don’t have free will. People make choices that affect their lives.
Over 100 Americans have died from lack of access to insulin since you left this comment
https://sh.itjust.works/comment/15413281
🤣
Of course not. We’re condemning the evil and praising a hero. Heroes kill monsters, ya know.
I’ll reword it for you: First down…
All of Lemmy: “Of course I would commit murder, why do you ask?”
Admittedly god works in mysterious ways and it seems god had enough of this guy
It’s not ALL of Lemmy. There’s still moral people on here like myself.
God doesn’t exist so that’s not an argument.
So what’s next? Little Billy doesn’t like the kid in his class who’s stealing people’s lunch money, so he guns him down and now that’s okay?