People don’t love their families though. We saw that during COVID when parents went nuts because they were force to stay home with their kids.
I loved having us all home together, and I actually grew closer to my kid during COVID. Our relationship got stronger as father and son because he saw me so much more since I wasn’t in an office and commuting for like 10-12 hours of my day. It was so fun to do little science experiments and teach him some fun life lessons.
I’m an outlier though. I love being with my wife and kid, and they love being with me. So many parents are always bitching about their kids or spouses and then pawning the kids off on others. Our house is the hangout house and so many of my son’s friends feel safe stopping by just to say hello on their way home from school.
I guess this is why I have successfully made a career switch to teaching. I genuinely think kids are pretty cool and worth our time!
We see it every summer when parents ship their kids off to summer camp.
In america
exactly, parents use K-12 schools as daycare and parenting, disciplining. thats why some grow up dysfunctional in some form or another(usually way after HS).
also getting pets for the wrong reasons during covid, to cope, and when its lifted they were back at the shelter eventually.
That’s not how the economy works. Unless there’s no human work to do at all, most will just be pushed out of their comfier thinking jobs into physical labor jobs.
Thats not how productivity works. We dont just stop at slave labor we industrialize everything.
run a business. it’s unsustainable to be kind to your employees because your competition won’t. capitalism is fractal, you can understand it at every level by comprehending any individual level. you need secrets, cleverness, ruthlessness and sustainability.
Sorry but thats just not true. You better believe the kind employer has the best talent. Its just… well if youve never experienced what it is to work with talented people…
You are filled with life and love and optimism and that combination deserves to thrive. I don’t think you understand markets yet, but I hope you have the greatest success.
This guy is part of the real problem.
Our little chimp brains equate power over others with success, detached from results.
If someone isn’t hurting, it’s not working, so the infinite leisure created by automation becomes infinite time to discover how to hurt people and torture each other.
If it’s not suffering, it’s not hustle.
What fresh new horrors await when results are even MORE detached from individual power trips.
No, youre just stuck in the mindset of the ruthless manipulator. No good thing came about though ruthless capitalism. Capitalism feeds on the rotting corpse. The left overs of innovation.
Lots of people are saying that what are you talking about? It’s just not any of the Epstein class.
‘supposedly love’… someone didn’t get enough hugs growing up.
How many hugs is enough hugs?
Another question, what was the appropriate amount of hugs that you obviously recieved?
One of my secondary school teachers once remarked that you need at least 3 hugs a day. She also qualified that by saying you get to decide what counts as a hug, because some people are more comfortable with handshake (or analogous) than a hug.
Having a 5 year old, 3 hugs a day is insane. I get more than 3 hugs in the first minute of my kid waking up. I’m already scared knowing their cuddliness won’t last forever. The first time I’ve spent one day/night away and I got so touch deprived by 5 pm I almost started cuddling my friend.
I like hugs but wont go in for one. People scare me, or really, they make me anxious.
Yeah, that’s one of the reasons the “Free Hugs” persons at PLUR-positive festivals and events exist. They want to give hugs to the people that want them but are scared to initiate. The sign is supposed to puncture the anxiety cloud, but it doesn’t always work.
I hope you get all the hugs you want, even if you never find the “courage” to go in for one.
I have kittens, they are less scary and more cuddly.
Speak for yourself. I have been a 4 day work week advocate for eons.
HELL no! We can work even more overtime and make even more money for our billionaire masters!
Why didnt I think if that. My bad.
The techbros advocating for the ai don’t have families they love. At best, they have trophy family.
Really flipped that on its head
In order to work less (fewer hours or more time off), we need legislation that restricts work hours and requires companies to grant a minimum amount of time off. I agree with the sentiment that AI could free us up for more leisure, but in the absence of legislation, companies will just squeeze more productivity out of each worker without granting more leisure time.
Blood from a stone.
Legislating capitalism is like cupping your hands under a tap and hoping the sink below never gets wet.
Very true
AI will do all the white collar jobs, robots will continue doing more of the tedious manual work. What will be left is insane competition for jobs that are like custom maintenance, nursing, etc. But the question becomes, what does a society look like with over 30% of workers no longer needing to work because AI is doing it, while about 30% of worker’s positions are still extremely necessary?
Everyone pictures the final outcome so clearly… like we just going to pretend we are good at predicting the future with pinpoint accuracy?
People fail to realise we have already reached the threshold for nonessential jobs; that’s why people can make millions from being an influencer.
The competition for jobs is so tight that its a luxury to have a job; think about how fucked up that is.
I don’t agree with that at all, “it’s a luxury to have a job”? There are many problems still needing to be solved. Most people work out of necessity.
the only ones making millions as influencers, are usually people that are already well off, or rich.
Yeah but have you met those fucking kids…?
… pharsing
Until less youre trying to summon the epstein class.
There has never been a case of capitalism using improvements in efficiency to let people work less, use fewer resources, etc.
It’s always more, more, more.
This is about it. If you can produce 2x output per worker you’re not going to give each worker half days, you’re going to cut down your workforce until supply once again matches demand. As this cycle repeats jobs become more and more competitive as workers fight for placements at these more efficient firms. They’ll pursue advanced degrees and extra certifications to stand out. This produces a lot of stuff, but ultimately creates a warped standard of living. Higher productivity ironically makes time spent not working or pursuing prerequisites to work more expensive.
As some wise boys said 40 years ago, “you gotta fight, for your right, to party”.
i have been , hell go all the way back to Bertrand Russel, he does as well, see his treatise “In Praise of Idleness”, famous economists like Maynard Keys projected we’d all be broking 15 hrs a week now for the same pay.
Productivity increases have gone to the very wealthy and we’ve voted for it, over decades, over and over and in the face of all that evidence ? we’d fuck in’ do it again, Leopards Eating My Face is full of examples. Solutions ? there arent any, the world has to many hateful and stupid people easily led by physcopaths and grifters . Not just the US, it’s near ubiquitous.
They’re probably not saying that because they are too busy asking the far more important question of “If Ai takes all the jobs, how can I afford to feed and shelter the family and children I love”
You do understand why people work right? Very few people work just for funsies. They work so they can afford to eat, pay rent, pay for utilities, and be able to afford essentials like clothing, health insurance, transportation.
Almost everything we need to actually live and function costs money. You primarily get money by having a job. So if someone gets laid off, they’re probably very busy trying to find another source of income so they can actually keep their children alive and healthy.
Ill grant you all those things but what youre describing is the exact chains the oppressor use to keep you enslaved.
Why would the owners willingly give up those chains? If AI removes the need for work and money, then Elon Musk is just another guy on the street. Can’t see billionaires accepting that.
I think its way more likely a Elon Musk would harness AI and Robotics to create personal fiefdoms whilst the rest of us live in the “bad lands”
Maybe we can swoon the oppressor with a song?
Not unless you can afford the pro plan
Gptsus, he subscribed and account shared so that we all may slop.
But why do we need to work to earn money? Because if those jobs didn’t get done we couldn’t survive. What OP is asking, I think, is if those essential jobs were automated, nobody would need to work, so why aren’t we talking about that?
I have yet to see AI pick up garbage,now a lawn, fix a toilet, make a bed… AI won’t take all jobs, just the ones that actually paid well because it required mental skills and experience e.g.coding, graphics… We will fight for the low paying manual labor Jobs and there will not be enough of those to satisfy demand, so wages will decrease.
Its a dystopian future for us.
All that stuff is coming. It’s taking longer than people would have expected, but it’ll happen sooner or later. You’re right that we seem to be stuck with the dystopia, though. We’ll fight over an ever dwindling pool of work until there’s nothing left, and then we’ll die or live at the sufferance of those in charge. The only hope is complete systemic change, but that seems further away now than it has ever been, mainly because not enough people even care. They’re pacified by their streaming content and drip fed carefully cultivated outrage-bait to keep them from even imagining that uniting is a possibility.
The ai won’t take all the jobs! There will be at least a few thousand prompt engineers!
The oldest profession might just be the longest lasting one
How could we maximize productivity if we allowed people leisure?
Make working fun! Jk
I am.
My dream job is being jobless in a world where everything is automated.
Mine is having a job automating everything.
Can we be friends?
