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    And… they’re basically all correct. Linux does run on all sort of machines, even really ancient ones. It has a solid command line environment, or rather lots of them. And it’s astounding powerful. Windows does still blue screen, is currently the best place for gaming, and wow is MS fucking you with Win11. Macs can have a cool setup, are really simplified for most users and expensive.

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      Macs excel in multimedia creation. It’s not just a cool setup. Yes, I’m prepared for the inevitable downvotes.

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        I don’t think I’ll ever be a Mac user but I’ve seen how fast these newer MacBooks edit video on battery power without breaking a sweat (and without eating through the battery).

        People focus on “software magic” with Apple but the M chips are serious hardware that a lot of us don’t take seriously because the company that killed the iPod made them.

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          What’s interesting is the Apple CoreAudio system on iOS and macOS is as good as it is from their experience developing the iPod. For years after the iPod was discontinued, audiophiles were paying top dollar for used iPod Classics, just for the high quality DAC. The low-latency and high quality of CoreAudio is one of the reasons Pro Tools works better on Mac than on Windows.

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            Oh, I’m well aware. Every few months I search online for used Classics in working condition in my area because that’s a project I’m interested in, but I haven’t committed to it yet. Maybe I should as they are apparently getting expensive and harder to find everywhere.

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              Do yourself a favor and swap the battery when you do the storage. The most challenging part of the job is carefully prying apart the housing without causing cosmetic damage.

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        Yeah, more software was written for the more user-friendly computers with the (generally) less-technical userbase.

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          Yeah, the people at Pixar have no clue how to use a computer. Lol

          In all seriousness, even the same media software, like Pro Tools, is more versatile on Mac than on Windows. I can say that with first-hand experience.

          The “dumbed-down” Apple device is the iPhone. You get admin privileges on MacOS like a big boy. You can use bash or zsh commands in Terminal all you want.

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            You get admin privileges on MacOS like a big boy. You can use bash or zsh commands in Terminal all you want.

            Cool. So try updating to a version of Bash from the last 15 years, because the pre-installed one is Bash 3, because Bash 4 and 5 are under the GPLv3 license, which Apple won’t comply with.

            …ah, no, you can’t update the pre-installed Bash, because it’s on a section of the file system that is read-only even with admin access. You can install Bash 5 as a separate shell, and use that as your default terminal shell, but any scripts written with the standard #!/bin/bash instead of the more flexible #!/usr/bin/env bash will still use Bash 3.

            This “handholding” (or really, a safety net) is arguably a good thing, or at least a positive tradeoff; but you can’t claim it doesn’t exist.

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              I agree it’s not as limitless as Linux, but there’s plenty of room for advanced users.

              I’ve never needed to use a newer version of Bash. What is an example of something one couldn’t do with Bash 3 or zsh?

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                I get that this is an Apples to Oranges comparison, but Powershell 7 is way easier to use than the default Windows Powershell because of autocomplete. I imagine that newer versions of Bash have made improvements that are similarly powerful.

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                It’s not so much a problem of there being things you “can’t do” in other shells or older Bash, as that it breaks existing shell scripts, which is frustrating.

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    To me, a Linux user, Apple is more of a jail or a pusher. I don’t want to use it because of lock in. Oh, you have an iPod? It’s much better with a Mac. An iPhone? All your friends should also have it, and now we have this special app you can only use properly with other apple users.

    No thanks.

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      The funny thing about apple is just how far they’ve moved away from Jobs’ “vision”.

      It was clearly evident when they released the Apple Pencil. Jobs hated Stylus’. one of the reasons he killed the newton, and a reason why the iphone/ipad never originally had one as he was quoted as saying “why would I need a stylus? I have 5 of them on my hand”

      I mean Apple is like a cult that worship a dead god who would burn current Apple to the ground and start over if he came back.

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        Steve jobs also hated keyboards, or at least all the F1-12 keys because “nobody needs them”

        About the “5 stylus on my hand”, it really feels like he only ever cared about the lowest common denominator when it came to usability and function. Yes, you have 5 fingers, but to this day fingers lack precision on touch screens, while a pencil stylus is as precise as it can get.

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        Linux is a cult with an exit, apple is a cult that most don’t acknowledge as a cult and there’s no real exit

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              Was going to say that I don’t have the energy to be passionate about anything these days, but then I realised I’m quite happy - almost passionate, you might say - to turn that dispassion towards large organisations like Microsoft.

              Buy our products!

              “No.”

              • Main reason I started using Linux on my computers a few years ago. I also learned some shocking things about privacy that made me wanna switch. Linux runs most stuff someone not in another weird niche could ever want nowadays anyway.

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    Memes came and go and this picture is still somehow relevant. How old is it? I wouldn’t be surprised if it was 10+ years!