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    12 days ago

    Fuck. You don’t know me. You think this is what I want for my country? I’m one fucking wage slave being pissed on by the oligarchs that run America like a discount Russia. Go ahead and hate me. I live in a state where my vote is like pissing into the wind and I vote every chance I get. I march and speak out and you know what runs America and the fucking world money. I hate what America is right now. But if you want to kill me then I don’t cotton to it well pardner.

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      I hate what America is right now

      Ah, so what chapter was your favorite? Was it the genocide of 90 million Native American, Indians, indigenous folks? Or maybe the slavery era? Or better yet, maybe the Jim Crow Era? Oh and how can I forget the mass incarceration era?

      … Pure liberalism.

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        My favorite part was the momentum we have had combatting those things and trying to ensure they never happen again and all of the Americans who have given their bodies lives flesh and blood in sacrifice to change those things. America isn’t one single person it’s a throng of insanity and there are a lot of people who fight against the tide of horror seeking to form a more just and perfect union and then there are a shitload of Nazis.

        Where are you from? Everyone wants to play this gotcha card like America is the only imperialist nation that has ever existed or somehow the only nation in the world that commits atrocities.

        If you really want to know my favorite part has been the mass waking up to history that has recently caused an absolute violent and fascist crackdown almost completely destroying America. So the funny thing is you will probably get your wish but you’re not gonna like it.

        What’s your countries history? Fuck I don’t even like this place but I’m not so stupid to think my hands are clean or yours are for that matter.

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          momentum in combatting

          Trying to ensure

          Ah, so just vibes. Ight. The point of a system is what it does. You can keep huffing your civil religion till the cows come home.

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            Oh fuck you’ve enlightened me let me go get my breechloading musket so I can fix this shit right away. /s

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      Fuck. You don’t know me. You think this is what I want for my country?

      That’s not the point. I am not even blaming YOU, I am blaming “America”. I guess I could have been more clear but the point is that all you said is real and a huge concern for the rest of the world. That, added to the inability of the USA to stop putting its finger in the rest of the world’s ass (and not in a fun way), means most cannot like America

      As for the rest, man you, and here I will be clear, YOU = THE AMERICAN PEOPLE need to stop thinking about your individual selves and start organizing for the benefit of the many.

      While the American people keep holding “Fuck you, Got Mine” as your core principle, you will all just keep speed running down the drain.

      Unfortunately for you (yes, you the individual now), your country is too far gone for things to change in any significant way in your lifetime. Most likely, your generation (and likely the next one as well) will need to take the steps, which will imply sacrifices, for the benefit of the generations to come

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        The American people have fuck all to do with America. You want this shit to end take it up with American corporations and stop buying our shit. From musk to Trump to Clinton to Nixon etc etc we have been wheeling and dealing with fucks from all over the world to destroy workers rights and create the trillionaire rulers. Americans are just as caught in this thing as anyone else. It’s about money and money is power, money is speech, money is extracting everything from everything and everyone and if you participate you’re a fucking American too.

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          Do you think mid 1930s germans had fuck all to do with the Third Reich?

          Imagine reading your comment from the perspective of a Venezuelan. It’s all just handwaving, casting blame, and evasion. It’s pure American exceptionalism, and it’s pure liberalism. “Poor widdle baby Americans deserve none of this blame :(”.

          I encourage you to read about how fascism is actually mitigated. It’s not boycotts; it’s bullets, world wars, and sacrifice.

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            I’ve read a lot about fascism and I agree with you about your last point.

            However the rest of your read on the situation tells me how little you actually understand any of what’s happened/happening inside the U.S.

            Edit: And there were people fighting the Nazis. You know what the Nazis did? They killed them all and seized power through “legitimate” elections. Jesus. At least we still have robust opposition for the moment that is the overwhelming majority but because voting in our country is so fucked up it doesn’t matter. Also you’re a dick.

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              Better get busy forming the resistance then. To die at the hands of fascists instead of joining them is the greatest honor history could present you with. Instead you’re getting fat and writing angry comments on the internet.

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                Jesus. Yes. I am Che’ leader of the new American revolution hear me ye impoverished and oppressed and flock to my ranks so that we can take back our country.

                You really know nothing about the U.S. and what has happened since 9/11.

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          The American people have fuck all to do with America

          So then you should be rioting in the streets instead of shit posting on lemmy.

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            No disagreement here. But that’s also part of project 2025’s plan is to have mass rioting so they can formally rip apart the constitution and send the army after us. But again I don’t disagree.

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          so your points are that this is not your fault, it’s the rest of the world’s… there is nothing you can do because any option is just too hard and/or you won’t get the credit and/or is not guaranteed to succeed…

          Do you still wonder how fascism festered and flowrished in your country or should I spell it out more clearly?