I don’t understand this weird American obsession with flag. I was looking at some photos of Trump’s rallies. Flags everywhere - on shirts, hats, glasses etc. And this bizarre cult of the flag - “it cannot touch the ground” etc.

At the end of the day the flag is just a piece of cloth. If you worship any flag or take offense to any flag, you need to get a life.

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    I’m no nationalistic fanatic of the flag, but is it really so difficult to understand that the flag is a symbol?

    Obviously each flag, be they for nations or other groups, represents more than just a piece of cloth to many people. Taking offence at someone else’s identifying with what a flag symbolizes is not okay. But, I tend to look skeptically at worship of any kind of idol, be it flag, cross, or text. That still doesn’t mean it’s okay to hate or persecute people for their beliefs, even if they appear silly to you and as long as they don’t hurt others.

    One group can demonstrate their respect for the nation by physically following some rules around the flag and others can demonstrate their loyalty to their ideals of the nation being violated by flying the flag upside down or burning a flag.

    A flag or banner is not just a piece of cloth, never has been.

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      4 months ago

      you’re absolutely right, and reminds me of the George Carlin bit, hopefully I’ve remembered it right:

      “flags are symbols for the symbol-minded”

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      In the UK we call them “flag shaggers” and they are laughing stock.

      If you are not trolling and you genuinely don’t see the difference between occasional flag use and everyday cult typical for the USA and for the far right in other countries, you may be even slower than you appear from your comments here.

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        You seem unaware you’re drunking on yourself here by parroting me.

        Zealots are the problems, not the entire population, as I’ve said.

        You’re not one of those “readers”, huh?

        Did you know that someone lapping you doesn’t mean you’re ahead of them?

        You should really try again, that was embarrassing for you.

        Real funny on this side, though.

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          Zealots are the problems, not the entire population, as I’ve said.

          You are not the sharpest tool in the box, are you?

          In other nations flag cult is limited usually to the far right. Everyone else is using flags sporadically - football events for example.

          In the USA flag cult is an everyday occurrence applicable to the most of the population: flags in classrooms, on houses, everywhere. With their bizzare customs “not touching the ground” and other shit. Cult of a piece of cloth.

          Do you get it now? If not try to read again. Slowly.

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            In the USA flag cult is an everyday occurrence applicable to the most of the population: flags in classrooms, on houses, everywhere.

            It’s not even close to everywhere, it’s mostly sporting events and the right weirdos

            As for the flag not touching the ground: that’s flag code, military rules. Again, only the right cares

            You’re being incredibly condescending about something while knowing 0 about it

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    Nationalism is part of fascism. Just a FYI, it used to be illegal to make clothes out of the US flag. It’s only because of capitalism that it changed. And yes, any nation that goes flag crazy is stupid. Why do people fly a flag at their residence? We know what country we are in.

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    I understand a flag having meaning. What I don’t understand is kids pledging allegiance to the flag everyday. That’s some North Korea shit.

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      That’s some North Korea shit.

      Nope. That’s some American shit. And it was American shit long before the DPRK even existed.