What intrigues me, is when people using batshit stupid singular examples like- how ignorant it is to find similarity in two people that correctly use math to illustrate commonality with Nazis, as an argument in defense of someone showing a direct commonality with Nazis-
And then arguing against their own point in another thread.
You really need to keep better track of your arguments. It’ll save you the embarrassment of having to delete your hypocrisy.
I beg that you accept my profuse apologies for making you way those endless hours for my return. I had no idea you fancied me so. And were I to have known, I may’ve not quickened to my slumber so!
/s
Look dude. You really need to let this go. You and your sock puppet have been following me in and out of conversations to the point that I’m not sure which of the three or four in as many communities that I’ve had with you- you’re even talking about.
Just let it go and walk away. Seriously. Learn to accept that while you’re free to offer your opinion, it doesn’t have to mean shit to anyone else but you. There is no entitlement you have to anyone’s time or effort here, just like there is no obligation we have to accept your opinion as truth. This applies to me as well- which is why I’m not bothering to argue to you to change your mind. I don’t care if I’m right. I just started my opinion that is all!
Plain as.
And it seems to me, that others might feel the same, because the ratios show it. Clearly few aside from your little friend seems to really care about your goals to out me as wrong, and even if I were- who cares. It’s the internet.
Haha what a wall of text but not a single response to the original question. It’s like the 6th wall of text from you but at no point do you engage with the topic.
This is the laziest form of trolling. I suppose everyone needs a hobby
Again, I have no clue what question you’re obsessing over. You’ve followed me across several communities now-
refresh me so that I can answer and cull your sad desperation, my man.
Oh and seriously? You’re doing the whole “wall of text” bit?
It’s called EFFORT my man. If I wanted to troll you, I’d harass you about a dumb fucking question across several instances until you felt the need to offer a wall of text to get me to ba-
Ohhhhh! I get it now.
Yeah. Good job kiddo. Thanks for helping me see what you’re up to.
You’re obsessed with this singular logical example I provided but you refuse to answer my main question. It’s odd.
I’m going to ask again: what about someone declaring “down votes don’t affect behavioral outcomes” made you go straight to: “wow. You have so much in common with nazis”.
I’ve asked this like three or four times, and each reply you write focuses only on the bad logic about the analogy I provided earlier.
Why won’t you answer my main question? Is it because it makes you seem unhinged? I’m not interested in judging you. I’m just curious why? Why was that the first thing that you thought to write? Why won’t you answer this question? So far you’ve only talked about the analogy I gave and it’s been like three or four replies. I’m really curious.
It’s the context. I’ve seen you argue in a few other threads in a similar way. I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt, maybe you have an intellectual disability that makes the importance of context hard to grasp. It’s very common with some forms of autism. I’m choosing to believe this because the other option is that you’re just another conservative who is “just asking questions”, which is a classic alt-right approach and is exactly the kind of obdurate behaviour the OP is taking about.
Premise
Who you fight with, who you fight against, what you fight for, when you choose to fight. These are all often more important than what you’re arguing. In this case:
Background
The prompt was “don’t waste your effort fighting people who only argue out of malice and are not open to changing their beliefs”
I said “sure, but that should be balanced by the importance of making Nazis feel unwelcome. At the minimum put in the effort to downvote them”
Buddy replies “no, that won’t work don’t bother”
Who you fight with:
Sure he had an argument that COULD be discussed, but in this case it’s important to note that MOST people who argue for "not putting in even minimal effort to fight Nazis " are Nazis.
who you fight against
Yes, I’m sure you’ll point out that he didn’t say not to put in effort to fight Nazis. But in this context he’s ONLY arguing against downvotes for Nazis. It’s not like he presented alternatives.
what you fight for, when you choose to fight
In this case he’s fighting for not downvoting Nazis, and he’s only arguing this point in this context where his arguments support not downvoting Nazis. There is no value of “downvotes don’t work” that he’s arguing for in dozens of threads… Just this one time, in this one context where the argument is against downvoting Nazis.
Final notes
Against, I’m well aware of minor technical assumptions implicit in the text. I’ve tried to minimize them or address them ahead of time to allow you to see the importance of context in what people will support our fight against. I’m sure you can write 1000 words to try to pick apart what I’ve said, or just 3 words to dismiss it. But if you try, you’ll understand that context is more important to most people than content, especially in a public setting like Lemmy where you can’t vet the people you’re talking to ahead of time. If you want to genuinely argue content you have to make sure the context isn’t working against you.
Wow. right out of the gate straight to personal insults. Why can’t anyone on this damn platform argue an argument straight? Why is every goddamn response so emotionally loaded? Are y’all incapable of having a simple conversation about a topic? Any topic? I feel like this is just Rhoeri’s alt. I don’t care any more. Y’all go fuck yourself.
None of the context changes anything. Downvotes don’t affect behavioral outcomes whether you like it or not. So calling op a nazi has zero impact on the discussion except for shit stirring, which is clearly the goal of Rhoeri. I’m done.
Crazy that you didn’t engage with a clearly laid out argument after spending 10 replies arguing that other people aren’t “engaging with your argument”. Also being autistic isn’t an insult.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make them drink.
NTs don’t need the importance of context explained to them.
You still haven’t engaged with the argument.
Seems like you’re all “emotional arguments” and “insults” now that someone ACTUALLY answered your question and you didn’t like the answer. Wonder why no one else wanted to do it.
What intrigues me, is when people using batshit stupid singular examples like- how ignorant it is to find similarity in two people that correctly use math to illustrate commonality with Nazis, as an argument in defense of someone showing a direct commonality with Nazis-
And then arguing against their own point in another thread.
You really need to keep better track of your arguments. It’ll save you the embarrassment of having to delete your hypocrisy.
So you don’t have an answer for why you escalated so fast to name calling. It’s just second nature to you. Got it.
I beg that you accept my profuse apologies for making you way those endless hours for my return. I had no idea you fancied me so. And were I to have known, I may’ve not quickened to my slumber so!
/s
Look dude. You really need to let this go. You and your sock puppet have been following me in and out of conversations to the point that I’m not sure which of the three or four in as many communities that I’ve had with you- you’re even talking about.
Just let it go and walk away. Seriously. Learn to accept that while you’re free to offer your opinion, it doesn’t have to mean shit to anyone else but you. There is no entitlement you have to anyone’s time or effort here, just like there is no obligation we have to accept your opinion as truth. This applies to me as well- which is why I’m not bothering to argue to you to change your mind. I don’t care if I’m right. I just started my opinion that is all!
Plain as.
And it seems to me, that others might feel the same, because the ratios show it. Clearly few aside from your little friend seems to really care about your goals to out me as wrong, and even if I were- who cares. It’s the internet.
Just, learn to let go.
Haha what a wall of text but not a single response to the original question. It’s like the 6th wall of text from you but at no point do you engage with the topic.
This is the laziest form of trolling. I suppose everyone needs a hobby
Again, I have no clue what question you’re obsessing over. You’ve followed me across several communities now-
refresh me so that I can answer and cull your sad desperation, my man.
Oh and seriously? You’re doing the whole “wall of text” bit?
It’s called EFFORT my man. If I wanted to troll you, I’d harass you about a dumb fucking question across several instances until you felt the need to offer a wall of text to get me to ba-
Ohhhhh! I get it now.
Yeah. Good job kiddo. Thanks for helping me see what you’re up to.
Blocking you now.
Removed by mod
I see. This makes sense. I was hoping for some complex mysterious motivation for these types of comments. Moving on I guess. 🙂
You’re obsessed with this singular logical example I provided but you refuse to answer my main question. It’s odd.
I’m going to ask again: what about someone declaring “down votes don’t affect behavioral outcomes” made you go straight to: “wow. You have so much in common with nazis”.
I’ve asked this like three or four times, and each reply you write focuses only on the bad logic about the analogy I provided earlier.
Why won’t you answer my main question? Is it because it makes you seem unhinged? I’m not interested in judging you. I’m just curious why? Why was that the first thing that you thought to write? Why won’t you answer this question? So far you’ve only talked about the analogy I gave and it’s been like three or four replies. I’m really curious.
It’s the context. I’ve seen you argue in a few other threads in a similar way. I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt, maybe you have an intellectual disability that makes the importance of context hard to grasp. It’s very common with some forms of autism. I’m choosing to believe this because the other option is that you’re just another conservative who is “just asking questions”, which is a classic alt-right approach and is exactly the kind of obdurate behaviour the OP is taking about.
Premise Who you fight with, who you fight against, what you fight for, when you choose to fight. These are all often more important than what you’re arguing. In this case:
Background The prompt was “don’t waste your effort fighting people who only argue out of malice and are not open to changing their beliefs” I said “sure, but that should be balanced by the importance of making Nazis feel unwelcome. At the minimum put in the effort to downvote them” Buddy replies “no, that won’t work don’t bother”
Who you fight with: Sure he had an argument that COULD be discussed, but in this case it’s important to note that MOST people who argue for "not putting in even minimal effort to fight Nazis " are Nazis.
who you fight against Yes, I’m sure you’ll point out that he didn’t say not to put in effort to fight Nazis. But in this context he’s ONLY arguing against downvotes for Nazis. It’s not like he presented alternatives.
what you fight for, when you choose to fight In this case he’s fighting for not downvoting Nazis, and he’s only arguing this point in this context where his arguments support not downvoting Nazis. There is no value of “downvotes don’t work” that he’s arguing for in dozens of threads… Just this one time, in this one context where the argument is against downvoting Nazis.
Final notes Against, I’m well aware of minor technical assumptions implicit in the text. I’ve tried to minimize them or address them ahead of time to allow you to see the importance of context in what people will support our fight against. I’m sure you can write 1000 words to try to pick apart what I’ve said, or just 3 words to dismiss it. But if you try, you’ll understand that context is more important to most people than content, especially in a public setting like Lemmy where you can’t vet the people you’re talking to ahead of time. If you want to genuinely argue content you have to make sure the context isn’t working against you.
Wow. right out of the gate straight to personal insults. Why can’t anyone on this damn platform argue an argument straight? Why is every goddamn response so emotionally loaded? Are y’all incapable of having a simple conversation about a topic? Any topic? I feel like this is just Rhoeri’s alt. I don’t care any more. Y’all go fuck yourself.
None of the context changes anything. Downvotes don’t affect behavioral outcomes whether you like it or not. So calling op a nazi has zero impact on the discussion except for shit stirring, which is clearly the goal of Rhoeri. I’m done.
Crazy that you didn’t engage with a clearly laid out argument after spending 10 replies arguing that other people aren’t “engaging with your argument”. Also being autistic isn’t an insult.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make them drink.
Sure thing, calling someone with an intellectual disability in your asinine preamble sure wasn’t meant as an insult. Rhoeri, get a hobby.
NTs don’t need the importance of context explained to them.
You still haven’t engaged with the argument.
Seems like you’re all “emotional arguments” and “insults” now that someone ACTUALLY answered your question and you didn’t like the answer. Wonder why no one else wanted to do it.