• galanthus@lemmy.world
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    15 hours ago

    Well, I actually used to be more leftist before, but at some point my values changed, it seems. I do not see how my social position is relevant to the discussion.

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      12 hours ago

      “I just think things work better when the pigs decide how we do everything.”

      -said the pig.

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      14 hours ago

      Unless you are here arguing against your own interests (and I’m choosing my word there carefully) I’d say it’s pretty relevant.

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        14 hours ago

        I think you would say I was arguing against my interest when I held socialist(like radical socialist) beliefs. My values changed since then. We are not defined by the circumstances we find ourselves in.

        Also, I reject that class war rhetoric that is championed by Marxists.

        In any case, I am arguing in good faith. If my social position is enough to make you disregard me completely, then you are not.

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          14 hours ago

          Also, I reject that class war rhetoric that is championed by Marxists.

          I’m not a marxist, nor a socialist. But if I have to believe in unbridled greed to support capitalism then I should start looking around.

          In any case, I am arguing in good faith. If my social position is enough to make you disregard me completely, then you are not.

          If you are wealthy and arguing not to raise taxes on the wealthy, it’s hard to disregard your self interest no matter what you claim. Edit: And it’s disingenuous of you to conceal it for that very reason.