• jordanlund@lemmy.worldM
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      Assuming disabled people must have voted for Trump and therefore get what they deserve is disingenuous.

      Worst case scenario, they’re unable to meet the physical restrictions of voting imposed in red states and didn’t vote. That still doesn’t mean they deserve it.

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        Assuming disabled people must have voted for Trump and therefore get what they deserve is disingenuous.

        This isn’t at all what I said. I said specifically you can’t vote for the “throw all disabled people in a volcano” party and then be surprised when they start throwing disabled people in volcanos…

        I’m a person with disabilities, which is precisely why I didn’t vote for the “throw all disabled people in a volcano” party… It’s not wrong to hold people accountable for how they vote, even if they’re disabled. That’s not saying “haha, you deserve this!” but rather its “Welcome to adulthood. Decisions have consequences.”

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          Again, there’s no evidence from the article that the disabled people in question voted in ANY WAY, much less that they voted for Trump.

          That’s why your assumption they did is disingenuous.

          If the article were about disabled Trump voters, then you’d have a point. It’s not.

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      24 hours ago

      Who asked? Just a liberal looking to shit on marginalized people under the guise of “they didn’t vote blue so they must suffer”?

      if you wanted more marginalized people to vote blue, you should’ve done literally even a single thing to prevent liberals from alienating people by mimicking conservative policy. You lost for a reason, you can learn from it or you can continue to be a smug cunt and get even fewer votes in 2028 (assuming there are elections by then)

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        you should’ve done literally even a single thing to prevent liberals from alienating people by mimicking conservative policy. You lost for a reason, you can learn from it or you can continue to be a smug cunt and get even fewer votes in 2028 (assuming there are elections by then)

        Oh boy, here we go. The people that seem to have learned no lessons at all in recent months are the people that keep tearing down the Democratic Party and the liberals.

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          Exactly what I mean. No one should be standing around scratching their head thinking “I could never have seen this coming!”

          Same with all these Republicans who are cumming in their pants because the administration is currently going after who they want them to. Soon as they’re not, and they’re coming after them, they’re gonna be again like “I could never have seen this coming!”

          The fallout is going to be epic, and by then it’ll be too late. We’re fucked for good.

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        There comes a point where you become complicit in your own abuse. If you’re a person with a disability it should be painfully obvious to you which part of the isle you should be on…and if you’re not, then yeah. I blame you.

        It’s adult time. Time to be a big boy a realize you fucked up.

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          You came to a post about disabled people getting screwed over by Trump, which I’m p sure didn’t mention Trump voters at all, and asked who they voted for. Again, who asked for that? Why come here looking for an excuse to shit on disabled people? Ffs it’s a post about the Trump administration harming disabled folks, what’s your excuse for bringing your liberal superiority complex into it? People are getting hurt and you wanna score points off the ones who got conned into voting against a party that would’ve screwed them less. Being an asshole out of pocket sure as hell won’t win those people back

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            Being an asshole out of pocket sure as hell won’t win those people back

            Why would anyone want to win them back? Either you have emotional intelligence and understand that the Trump platform is bad and evil, or you don’t. It’s not some contest to see who can “convert the most people.”

            Fact of the matter is, is that if you vote against your own self interests, I have no sympathy for you. You would have been all “hazzah-hazzah!” when Trump was talking about ruining everyone else’s life, but now that he’s coming after yours, you’re all pissed off?

            How is a reasonable person supposed to have sympathy for that? I’m totally against harming the disabled. That’s why I didn’t vote for Trump. But how can I look at some dude in a wheelchair who voted for Trump and not think “you stupid piece of shit, you did it to yourself.” It is what it is at this point. He told everyone exactly who he was, and exactly what he was about from the beginning. It’s like a bunch of Vegans electing a Lion to lead them only to be totally fucking shocked when he pulls out his meat agenda. It’s astonishingly stupid.

            Has nothing to do with being liberal, center, or right, despite how hard you’re fighting to make it that way–even though I don’t even identify as a liberal… lol so nice try.

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              While I do agree with your sentiment you must realize these people have been lied to. Try watching 24 hours of Fox News and see what their worldview is. Now imagine this is all the news media someone who is disabled may consume.

              Your anger is justified, but it is perhaps misdirected in this scenario.

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                While I do agree with your sentiment you must realize these people have been lied to.

                Tired of hearing this excuse. Trump lied his entire first term. Verifiably. Anyone who believed that the second would be any different shouldn’t be voting–I don’t care the circumstances.

                We’re looking at the dissolution of our democracy for all time and you want me to not hold these people accountable because they were “lied to?” That’s just stupid. The same kind of apathy that caused this situation to begin with.

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                  I think you are missing what I am saying. These people don’t believe Trump has ever lied. I am serious about Fox News which is the most popular news station in America. For every lie they have an excuse and their own spin. If all you watch is Fox, which is quite common for a lot of people, you don’t know about any of the bad stuff Trump has done.

                  You know better, they don’t. Blaming them for their own ignorance is a luxury you are allowed because you see the truth. The answer is not to blame them, but to educate them. Unfortunately this is almost impossible when they have constant propaganda rammed down their throats.

                  I think you may be blaming the victim here in your anger. This does not solve the problem however cathartic it may be. I don’t pretend to have the answers either, but my perspective is a lot more nuanced than yours.

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                No point trying to reason with shitlibs, they’re god’s perfect little angels and can do and say nothing wrong. Marginalized people only deserve respect when they Vote Blue No Matter Who, and you should regularly shit on marginalized people who didn’t completely unprompted to own the right

                would be cooler if they’d do anything to actually own the right instead of letting them dismantle the government (': fun how liberals are literally physically incapable of ever learning from their mistakes and always stick one step to the left of fascism. Because again, they can do no wrong and are completely flawless and epic and smart and stuff

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              Again, who asked? This post isn’t about Trump or Kamala or any election, it’s just about disabled people getting fucked over. You’re blatantly looking for excuses to shit on marginalized people. Only going after the “bad” ones isn’t any less transparent than people complaining about white women, you just don’t like disabled people.

              I never even mentioned people who voted for Trump, those people are stupid for sure. I’m talking about the shit ton of people fucked by Democrats who didn’t vote for them bc they don’t see a point. They’re handily proving that there’s no point to supporting liberals, considering the absolute lack of resistance from them. You can either tell your party to improve, or just push those people away even harder.

              Again

              Who

              Asked?

              You’re making this about the election when it’s not. Quit acting like you’re innocent here, and don’t deny being a liberal when you’re literally copying how they treat minorities. People deserve respect regardless of whether or not they voted for your guy, quit making this about you and your need to feel superior to others