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    So… I guess cops literally aren’t here to protect anyone.

    Whether you’re a kid in school, or a former president. Cops ain’t here for you.

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      the most interesting thing about all of this is how no one’s really outraged at this colossal police failure, like they usually are. it’s like “oh… they dropped the ball on trump’s security? oh well shit happens whattayagonnado amirite?”

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        We already know that cops are incompetent. We would just like it if they weren’t also doing the occasional murder.

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    Secret Service and local PD absolutely deserve to get reemed out and punished for this gross incompetence and security failure.

    This is a huge issue that needs to be remedied quickly, else all our current and future politicians are at risk from internal or foreign enemies of the state. Regardless of your political alignment, all our politicians deserve a secure environment without risk to their own lives.

    Anyone that blows this off as, it was just Trump, is massively underestimating the scale of this issue.

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        “It’s ok, everyone here has way more guns. That’ll make him stop and go home, mark my w…. Oh shit!!”

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        To be fair they went to confront him and he pointed his gun at their head. Since those who went to confront weren’t armed, they retreated and sounded an alert, but the dude shot towards diaper don before anyone could do anything about it.

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          90 minutes before that, probably:

          officer:1 “You guys see that kid walking around the neighboring building with a gun, lol?”

          officer2: “Yeah, I waved at him, somebody should make sure he’s not here to shoot the president lol”

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    The texts showed that an officer spotted Crooks occupying a suspicious area more than an hour-and-a-half before the July 13 rally commenced at 6 p.m. Previously, Secret Service officials said Crooks was first spotted an hour before the rally—an amount of time many lawmakers already considered to be egregious at a presidential candidate’s rally.

    Other texts obtained by the Times revealed that an officer spotted Crooks using a range finder about 20 minutes before the rally began and snapped photos of him—but didn’t approach him.

    The strangest part of this is people expecting cops to do something that might plausibly put them in harms way

    Modern cops are almost exclusively all lazy cowards at this point.

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      Cops aren’t trained in operational security. When you have a large event with multiple agencies and groups of people doing different things, then it’s easy to blend in if you act like you know what you’re doing. You can walk into almost any building if you throw on a high vis vest and carry a ladder. People will hold the door open for you and even let you into high security areas if you are smooth enough.

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          Crazy person open carrying an AR 15 would probably blend in fine at a Trump rally…

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            Yeah right Republican rallies and conventions are “gun free” zones where you no longer have your 2A rights, apparently. People carrying at these rallies would require Republicans to be logically consistent.

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            My educated guess is that they looked at him milling about outside the rally and assumed he was a Trump supporter based on his look and wouldn’t be a problem.

            As for the real answer, we’ll have to wait for them to give a statement, but it’ll likely be watered-down misinformation that paints police in the best light, so we’ll probably never know for sure.

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        A button-down shirt/khakis and lanyard with a name badge often works, too, especially if you’re talking while using a Bluetooth headset and typing on a phone. People just assume you’re some low-level exec or IT support personnel, esp if your phone is on one of those tacky belt clips.

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      It has also been ruled repeatedly that police do not have a duty to protect you. There is no requirement that they risk their lives to keep you or anyone else from harm unless they have a “special relationship” with you, meaning you are in their custody. The cops were there to work the metal detectors and direct traffic. There’s no way in hell they were going to take a bullet for Trump. That’s the Secret Service’s job.

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    So I’m guessing that no one from a foreign government has even tried to take out presidential candidates? Because this kid got extremely close all while openly researching past assassinations, scoped out the rally site before the secret service, flew his drone and even got spotted multiple times. I could only imagine how easy it would be for real professional killers funded by a government.

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      Agreed, we need to get the Secret Service to clean up their act before we end up risking the life of some better President!

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