• Yozul@beehaw.org
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    4 months ago

    I mean, stopping fascists from gaining power is a pretty good way of stopping fascists from gaining power. If the government is to incompetent and/or uninterested in running the country to actually fix the issues people are pissed off about it’s only a stopgap solution, but a stopgap is better than nothing. If you have an actual plan for how to go about the process of creating an actual better system in the real world starting from where we are then by all means feel free to share, but until then voting will save lives.

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      4 months ago

      I think this is where the accelerationists are coming from, and I don’t think they’re wrong, at least in terms of identifying a problem. From their point of view, the system is the problem; it both inevitably trends towards fascism and actively and forcefully resists reform due to a network of entrenched interests. Thus, whether it arrives today or tomorrow, fascism IS coming, and the net violence could be decreased by just ripping off the band-aid and letting the whole damnable thing burn so that something new can take its place.

      I don’t think I agree with the solution; there’s no guarantee that what replaces it won’t be worse. The problem statement makes a lot of sense, though. It certainly feels truthy.

      • Yozul@beehaw.org
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        4 months ago

        Sure, yeah, but there are two major problems I see with that. It is a plan that even if it worked correctly would result in the most deadly war in human history if it happened in the US today, and also it wouldn’t work. They’d loose.

  • naevaTheRat@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    4 months ago

    What they managed to do is pretty cool though. Like yeah all the structural issues remain but centrists working with leftists to keep fascist out of the gov? Pretty rad! Broad leftist unity on the ballot at least? Pretty rad!

    I’m pretty sure the leftists know the stakes, don’t shit on solidarity.

      • orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts
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        4 months ago

        Fascism is a weed and power is a vacuum. It’s always going to crop back up and we stop it with any means necessary.

        Unfortunately for the US, we’re kinda fucked and being pushed towards the more extreme removal methods.

        • db0@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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          4 months ago

          At some point one has to wonder why that weed finds such fertile ground to grow instead of spending all their time weeding.