• Cuttlefish1111@lemmy.world
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    She seemed to have mental problems and the police should’ve known it and be documented to the address so they send a mental health counselor with police.

    The pair of officers come off aggressive from the start. Guy was just itching to do what he did. I’m glad he actually got charged for it.

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    I don’t know…
    The guy crying while crawling through the hallway with an entire swat team screaming at him and then getting executed was also pretty bad.
    The guy shot in the back multiple times while running away from the police officer was just chilling.

    All these shooting without consequences are just bizarre.

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      The hallways one pisses me off to no extent. From the pig who killed him having “Get Fucked” or whatever it was engraved on his rifle, down to the very fact they responded with nothing but conflicting and confusing commands. He was told to crawl towards them but also keep his hands above his head, which is impossible to do, crawling requires hands and knees on the ground, shuffling only requires knees. Then, the clearly intoxicated and unarmed man crying and shuffling towards them has his pants keep falling down, and like any of us would do, instinctively kept pulling them back up. Instead of the pigs telling him to ignore his pants, y’know, to help alleviate some of the stress the poor guy is experiencing, they scream once at him to keep his hands up and then they open fire on him when he instinctively does it again. There’s one of him, and at least half a dozen fully armed and armored pigs, and pulling pants up was soooooooooooooo threatening to these pieces of shit who like to play dress up as soldiers, they riddled him with bullets and he got to bleed out on a carpet in a hotel hallway.

      The report was a man brandishing a rifle in a hotel window, and at no point did they guy give any evidence he was packing a rifle or trying to be uncooperative with the pigs. And they killed him, because he didn’t want his pants to fall. Don’t worry though, the pig that killed him was medically retired due to PTSD from the event. I bet the victim sure wishes he could’ve medically retired from PTSD, but that privilege is only for pigs apparently.

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        But we know people are subject to crowd panic. It’s not an excuse, but definitely part of the reason was they worked themselves into a frenzy until someone let loose. They’re all guilty, but it’s also a human weakness that police need to solve

        This one I can’t even see how it happened. There was no crowd, nothing that could be perceived as threatening, no real possibility of any sort of violence, not even a threat of escaping. Most importantly, she was the “victim”, she called for help, how does that turn into her being suspicious? We’re far beyond any possibility of an excuse for that behavior, but I don’t even see how

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          That is a reason why it is a systemic problem - because crowd panic and situative anticipation is not trained enough.

          There is a reason police training in basically all industrial nations takes multiple years. One would expect the US with a dangerous environment to even take longer… instead it is smaller than it is in most developing nations.

          Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56834733

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          These mfs are basically trained to see civilians as a threat. So I’m not surprised that they randomly attack people who are not threats. Psychological conditioning can be very powerful

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          thats why you have training.and not the kind that convinces you you’re on a deniable black ops mission in Falujah at 4am infiltrating Al Qaeda when actually it’s Just Some Dude.

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    To add to this… a lot of police confirmation videos I see someone MAYBE acting strange or MAYBE doing something that a cop could find threatening. This one I saw absolutely no danger or strange behavior. The lady was just talking to them like any of us would talk to each other. It’s disgusting.

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      How dare you ignore her deadly weapon, the pot of water that she was pouring down the drain.

      They could have gotten wet, potentially, if she would have shown any sign of intention to throw it at them. But if they didn’t shot her they could have maybe gotten wet, if they also didn’t move.

      This is the kind of chaos, fear, traumas and danger or finest have to deal with every day! So it is very understandable if they decide to announce their intentions (“I can shoot you in your fucking face”) and then do it once she begs for forgiveness (“please! I’m sorry! I’m sorry!”)

      Who else would protect us?!

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        Come on… It was a pot of boiling hot water. If she did throw it at the cops that could do a lot of damage. I’m not saying it looked like she was going to throw it and I don’t think the shooting was justified, but don’t pretend like the cops would’ve just “gotten wet”. It doesn’t look good when you lie.

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          Yep, and I bet there were peaches on the counter. If she took the stones out of all the peaches and ground them up to a fine powder and chemically concentrated the cyanide, she could have offered a nice innocent tea that would have been deadly. Good thing he defended against such threats

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            Wtf are you talking about? Are you denying that a pot of boiling water would be easy to throw at someone and severely mess them up?

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              Ye, every time I’m in a diner, if I see a waitress even glance toward that coffee pot or the tea kettle, I’m pulling my gold plated Desert Eagles and mag-dumping right there. I have to do it. It’s self-defense. It would be their fault

              Especially if it’s to a tiny elderly wonan in her nightshirt trembling in distress, who asked for help, trying to obey my every command, and I only have one guy on backup and the long gun is not in place.

              Especially if I’ve commanded her to take it off the stove: they’re sneaky like that

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                Are you saying a knife couldn’t be threatening just because it’s used in a diner? What a stupid comment. Again, I’m not justifying the shooting, I think the cop fucked up to let it even get to that point, but don’t pretend like it was just a “pot of water”. You can still criticize the officer without lying about the facts.

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                  I think you’re overstating the threat here. The above commenter, though being facetious, is making a good point. The cop told her to take her pasta off the stove and even joked with her about avoiding the steam. Then he shot her. She was standing at a sink behind a raised-bar style countertop with a pot of water. Assuming she’s going to be able to chuck it over the counter at the cop is a bit of a stretch, particularly given her demeanor throughout the encounter. Nevermind the fact that she’s standing there with two armed men that could easily kill her (and one did), it’s bonkers to assume she would have both the motive and capability to do so.

                  It’s one thing if she behaved erratically to that point, but she didn’t. Additionally, if the cop was really concerned about the pot he could have said, “no, stay on the couch.” It’s just an odd hill to die on stating the cop was concerned about the pot.