“nice” is a meaningless term. Nazis are very often “nice” people on the surface.

What we want people to be is good and being actually good not just pleasent to be around takes work, it means to not react to your base instincts, it means introspection, it means weighing your wants and needs against the needs of others, it means sacrafice.

Its very easy to say immigrants are solely responsible for their situation so they should deal with it themselves. It is much more complicated to learn about the realities and nuances of their lived reality.

For an example if you have an aggressive dog you can either just shoot it or you take on the responsibillity of training it which means you have to learn about training, invest time and energy to do so and put yourself at risk while doing so and at the end the dog might still bite you.

Raising people to be good takes much more energy and willpower than speaking to their base instincts.

No it doesn’t. You have a two party system which makes things much more complicated.

1. Corporate dems are payed by their donors to keep the left at bay, if they do it through policy while in power or through playing opposition doesn’t matter that much.
2. As long as you have only two parties people have nowhere to go, there will not be enough pressure to change the party.
3. A low voter participation does not lead to systemic change, it leads to even less democracy overall
4. If you believe democrats would move to the left through less voters than the same would be true for republicans when we elect democrats.
5. You are not the majority, the voters show us again and again that they will not stand behind progressives in big enough numbers. This does not only go for the US but worldwide.
6. If you do not vote you still carry blame, Gaza might have looked the same but people wouldn’t get shot in the street by ice. Governtment agencies wouldn’t be reduced to a minimum and so on and so forth. There is real world harm done by republicans right now and if you go back Nixon and reagen did immense damage to the country to this day.

Its just not that easy if your activism is reduced to “not voting” than it is completely meaningless.

Voterparticipation was 64% So more like 30%.

People can be hateful AND other things. They aren’t raging monsters but for one reason or another when making one of the most important desicions they let themselves be guided by hate, doesn’t mean they don’t love their dog or hug their kids.

You slso don’t need to put all the blame on them, propaganda is a powerful tool,they might very well have turned out fairly decent without it. They aren’t born like that but it doesn’t change what they have become.

I think it goes deeper than that. We have a problem with hierachical thinking in general. We expect our kids to follow their leaders, without question, there is little room for kids to participate in society in a meaningful way.There is no way for them to change anything.

Than they get to an abitrary age and we expect them to suddenly transition to involved voters.

I don’t believe that people raised to question why a system works how it works, who were allowed to argue , whos curiousity got rewarded, who simply had a real voice in their upbringing, would have fallen for him.

They would have learned that things are more complicated and they would trust themselves more to be able to change society than they would trust authority to fix things for them.

Its not on us to “forgive” her. I don’t know why people feel like they personally got victimized by her. From all accounts she was a loving mother, the people that actually knew and loved the kids are supporting her bc they are certain she must have been insane at the time.

She should have a chance of getting out when sane since there is no reason to keep someone when not a danger anymore. I don’t really get off on punishing people, i only tolerate it as long as it serves a purpose.

Okay you have to understad that we are trying to have a civilisation here.

Your point of view is not consistent.

If you want a murderer punished like you would a “rabid animal” because we are just animals and don’t need further understanding than there is no reason to object murder in general.

If you get convinced than your opinion changed and you now have a new opinion of your own.

This infighting is very dissapointing and counterproductive.

I don’t really understand why we can’t give each other a little bit of grace. It sounds like everyone believes the “other side” is downright evil which begs the question what are we even fighting for ?

There is no perfect not even a good choice to make here. On the one hand republicans are extremly dangerous and everything they fuck up can’t be easily repaired, you still suffer from the policychoices under reagan but on the other hand democrats are very complicit but they at least give room for positive development.

I can’t be mad at people not feeling great about electing someone that supports israel but Palestians are probably worse off now than they would be under kamala but than again how can we expect the party to change when they get votes simply for being not as bad.

We should focus on the real problem which is a antidemocratic voting system. You can be as mad as you want about your countrymen and the democratic party but as long as you don’t have a real choice and megadonors the problems will remain, the most important part is to rally as many people as you can behind a shared believe not necessarily convince them to share all of yours.

I almost never see discussions about how to actually make your country a democracy, only infighting. In theory it would be relativly simple to impliment these changes, practically it is obviously complicated and an uphill battle but it is certainly more practical and unifying than shitting on each other.

Don’t you think the pay is comparable enough because they kinda have to match the unionionized shops?

I don’t really see a problem with most of it, 2fa is obviously a good thing and necessary bc people just don’t use strong enough passwords.

Being able to do government stuff at my own home is great too.

Most of these things are for convinience.

I see a problem if there is no alternative way to pay for things in cash.

Surveillance is a different beast alltogether but this comes down to legislation. Countries managed to cut down freedom without any mobile phones at all. This is what we need to focus on not on mildly annoying tech.